I’m a Sabian cymbal guy. To me, Zildgian sound better live. Sabian better for recording.
When does the negotiations get to the economics/pay?
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Frankie's Friend
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Yeah but high hats are high hats.
I use fusion high hats. Sabian AAX. 3 hole. The response is instant. It doesn’t catch air like traditional hats.
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Frankie's Friend
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Only a percussionist would understand.
Exactly right!!
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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You would know if you intend on leaving. The pension administrator will go over all of that when it’s time. It will never be an issue for me.
UnconTROLLed
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I like the new reworked Zildjian A's with the large "A" logo, as well as the new Avedis line. From the 1960s on, the Zildjian A's progressively got heavier and heavier because of the need to cut through more amps and noise, they lost the buttery feel and didn't open up quickly enough. Heavy and stiff. The new A's (2013 - )are so much better, like they used to be in the 50's and 60's.
But man I just bought a pair of pre-serial 15" Paiste 602 hi-hats that are like butter.. best hats I've ever owned, even better than my 14" Zildjian K dark hats.
I had a Paiste 14 crash that I loved. Cracked that thing playing a show.
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Good stuff!
All you ever saw or heard about were Kildjians in the 60s and 70s. They seemed to split more often back then. Is that why they produced them heavier? IDK, but Zildjian, Ludwig, Slingerland, Pearl were all the big names back then. No one questioned the price unless you werent serious about being a percussionist.
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Frankie's Friend
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That always sucked.
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Frankie's Friend
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My best friend was a keyboard/percussionist guy that went to Berkley College in Boston, graduating in 2.5 years with a 4 yr degree. His folks had money so his set was top notch. He had Zildjians when no other high school kid could afford them.
UnconTROLLed
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Yeah Ludwig and Zildjian were the staples of the 1960's and 1970's. Wasn't until the early 80's that brands like Pearl and Tama started making headway with the imports. (Pearl Export - Toyota Corolla of drums! ) lol
Cymbals crack more easily when they cannot move freely or are more rigid, since the energy cannot disperse the same way. As a whole, Zildjian A's started getting heavier in the late 60's into the 80's only because people wanted louder cymbals for rock music, and weight/profile changes volume and projection. Now the trend is dark and thin cymbals - the new A's are definitely thinner.
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Rogers and Gretsch were also popular. Especially Gretsch.
UnconTROLLed
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Yeah definitely. Rogers dynasonic snare drums are some of my favorites. Also Camco made great drums.
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MenInBrown
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So is UPS giving us a raise with CYMBALS???
DELACROIX
In the Spirit of Honore' Daumier
You guys play any with a group in your time off?
UnconTROLLed
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Once in a while in an acoustic jazz trio. years ago I played in two or three projects at once, when my body could handle it and was younger. My grandfather and I were also AFM, but I didn't work a lot.
Supposedly they're talking about starting new hires between $13-$15 an hour which would mean current loaders and unloaders still making starting pay would go up to at least $13-15 and as for other employees such as myself who is currently making $11.50 as a sorter I may end up with $15-$18 but the rumor is that the new hires will start at $13-$15 while all other employees stay at their current pay rate which in turn will cause hubs to go on strike because I know nobody will let newbies come in making more than the rest of us and expect us to be ok with some new idiot who probably wont make it get paid more than us I've already heard people talk about going on strike of that bs happens
MyTripisCut
Never bought my own handtruck
I’m pretty sure that won’t happen.
