Who are Locals 705

[705red]

Thats too easy to answer. I'm surprised you even asked it. Its common knowledge that you have your traditional teamster locals also called the old guard by tdu/carey/leedham supporters.

and then you have the tdu/carey/leedham crowd. You're getting support from the latter. some of the most militant locals in the country.

those rebels looking for a cause due not equate to support by the international.

One of the heads your recently mentioned is an al sharpton / jesse jackson type looking for any cause he can join to get his face in the paper.

705 has the reputation of being union nazi's. Radicals in every sense.

I even had a conversation with a BA who described your local as being run by a bunch of TDU nuts.

My friends tell me your BA's and steward get thrown off property for being disruptive more then any others. I guess that something to be proud of.

Your union does not have any credibility when they try to sing the we're bargaining in good faith song. There's no doubt your guys are probably doing everything they can to piss off the other side.

So the consensus from quite a few sources both management and union give me the impressoin your guys probably self manipulate theirselves fantasizing about leading a strike.

The good news is your local has passed 804 as being viewed the most radical in the country. congrats on your accomplishment.

Tie to my knowledge 1 steward has been thrown out of the building i work in, that wont happen again it will take a police escort to remove a steward or agent of off the companies property. See under article 4 and 21 the company has agreed that we are allowed to be on property. This instance the steward was watching supervisors work as they sent home hourly employees early.

Now lets talk a little about your conversation with your business agent. What local union are we speaking of? When you had this conversation was it during a round of golf bought for by the ups? Over a weekend get away between you two love birds? Or just small talk as you were spooning after a well done deal?
I dont believe that any other union would bad mouth 705 and i do believe that you are just stirring the pot. If your agent said this give us his name so we can verify. Unless your just passing on propoganda again.

 

[cachsux]

Chicagos state tax is a little over 10% on all purchases which is one of the highest in the nation. I myself pay over $9,000 in property tax per year to own my home.

I believe thats city tax now. I`m unsure of state,I only pay 6.25% on purchases except for food which is 1%. I barely pay $4k on my house and land.

 

[Mike Hawk]

I even had a conversation with a BA who described your local as being run by a bunch of TDU nuts.

I had a conversation with a center manager who said the person who posts on Brown Cafe under the name of "tieguy" is a anti union nut blinded by his devotion to management. Sounds real credible huh?

 

[tieguy]

I had a conversation with a center manager who said the person who posts on Brown Cafe under the name of "tieguy" is a anti union nut blinded by his devotion to management. Sounds real credible huh?

sorry mike having a hard time translating. Is that a anti or an anti?

Actually I have a lot of respect for many construction unions. I think there are also many good working locals within the teamsters that do a good job. I also think there are some thug unions and I believe you represent the mindset of those thug unions.

 

[Mike Hawk]

sorry mike having a hard time translating. Is that a anti or an anti?

Actually I have a lot of respect for many construction unions. I think there are also many good working locals within the teamsters that do a good job. I also think there are some thug unions and I believe you represent the mindset of those thug unions.

Wow, Tieguy found a grammatical error, a bit hypocritical when you fail miserably at capitalization.

 

[Bloodybrown]

Are you saying that under the national that they will not eliminate any 22.3s for every new feeder run created? You might want to read up on your language

It would be a partial win tie.


Bloody i dont know why we are not part of jac? I have never heard of it until now. I know are grievance procedure is spelled out in article 7 and goes into arbitration. If i had to guess i would say that its spelled out in the contract.

Our ptimers have had prescription cards for some time and dont pay more than $10/10% per doctors visits out of pocket. We have not received a sumsry of the new proposed plan, but you dont have to be a rocket scienstist to know that it propbably wont be as good of coverage.

Red, I am surprised that you are not educated on the JAC and the process. I guess your leadership at 705 does not want its members to know about the process. You seem to be a bright guy that would question the local as to why are they and UPS are throwing away 10K for every case that goes to arbitration remember 200x10K= $2,000,000. Don't you think the local and UPS would save a ton of money if you guys used process that is already in place??? I understand that its in article 7 but don't you think all parties involved would be better served if this was changed? You also would not have employees sitting in limbo for as long as you do with your current process in arbitration.

I can't comment on the part-timers medical, I don't know what you guys currently have.

 

[tieguy]

Are you saying that under the national that they will not eliminate any 22.3s for every new feeder run created? You might want to read up on your language


Red, I am surprised that you are not educated on the JAC and the process. I guess your leadership at 705 does not want its members to know about the process. You seem to be a bright guy that would question the local as to why are they and UPS are throwing away 10K for every case that goes to arbitration remember 200x10K= $2,000,000. Don't you think the local and UPS would save a ton of money if you guys used process that is already in place??? I understand that its in article 7 but don't you think all parties involved would be better served if this was changed? You also would not have employees sitting in limbo for as long as you do with your current process in arbitration.

I can't comment on the part-timers medical, I don't know what you guys currently have.

Red is this issue and the contract freak out related? Is it possible you have a green leadership group that does not know what they are doing?

 

[New Englander]

Wow, Tieguy found a grammatical error, a bit hypocritical when you fail miserably at capitalization.

Don't forget his spelling as well.

 

[705red]

Red is this issue and the contract freak out related? Is it possible you have a green leadership group that does not know what they are doing?

If our leadership is bad at what they do what would you call the management team that gets it handed to them at will by these inexperienced greenies?

 

[Bloodybrown]

If our leadership is bad at what they do what would you call the management team that gets it handed to them at will by these inexperienced greenies?

705 red you continue to not answer questions why??......I don't know who you are handing it to but it must be someone thats not to bright. I know its not UPS as a whole !

 

[705red]

705 red you continue to not answer questions why??......I don't know who you are handing it to but it must be someone thats not to bright. I know its not UPS as a whole !

That was my answer, just because you dont like it does not mean its not an answer.

What do you do at ups, i can tell that you are probably in management?

 

[Bloodybrown]

That was my answer, just because you dont like it does not mean its not an answer.

What do you do at ups, i can tell that you are probably in management?

You are evasive, read my other posts......then give me your answer...if it does not change , it will speak volumes of your true character !

 

[Mike Hawk]

I think Bloody's question was concerning you grievance procedure, as I understand it 705 has a separate grievance procedure because of their separate contract. That is why there are no state/JAC panels.

 

[Bloodybrown]

That was my answer, just because you dont like it does not mean its not an answer.

What do you do at ups, i can tell that you are probably in management?

It took you long enough to figure it out!....I just think you need to do the right thing! ....no matter which side of the tracks your on!!

 

[705red]

You are evasive, read my other posts......then give me your answer...if it does not change , it will speak volumes of your true character !

You can ask it again and i will try and answer. Im not searching through 5 pages of posts looking for what you are talking about.

 

[Bloodybrown]

You can ask it again and i will try and answer. Im not searching through 5 pages of posts looking for what you are talking about.

You just need to move up a little bit on this page, Mike Hawk is correct!

 

[705red]

Are you saying that under the national that they will not eliminate any 22.3s for every new feeder run created? You might want to read up on your language


Red, I am surprised that you are not educated on the JAC and the process. I guess your leadership at 705 does not want its members to know about the process. You seem to be a bright guy that would question the local as to why are they and UPS are throwing away 10K for every case that goes to arbitration remember 200x10K= $2,000,000. Don't you think the local and UPS would save a ton of money if you guys used process that is already in place??? I understand that its in article 7 but don't you think all parties involved would be better served if this was changed? You also would not have employees sitting in limbo for as long as you do with your current process in arbitration.

I can't comment on the part-timers medical, I don't know what you guys currently have.

The union only pays when they lose and as for ups losing millions... no im not concerned im happy that they lose this money! If they didnt do the crime than they wouldnt have to do the time. I will ask about jac and will respond to you on it.

Why dont you give us some detail on it, and also if you are in management? If you are why would you be pushing jac? Does ups have their way it at?

 

[1989]

Chicagos state tax is a little over 10% on all purchases which is one of the highest in the nation. I myself pay over $9,000 in property tax per year to own my home.

I pay $3800 a year property taxes on a $300K house And my state sales tax was 9.6%. What does this have to do with anything? Maybe you need to find something you can afford. It's not UPS's fault you bit off more than you can chew.

 

[705red]

I pay $3800 a year property taxes on a $300K house And my state sales tax was 9.6%. What does this have to do with anything? Maybe you need to find something you can afford. It's not UPS's fault you bit off more than you can chew.

Who said i bite off what i cant chew? I was responding to another post in comparison. My house is just under $400k and i did the math on property tax for a great school district compared to private school for 3 kids. I can afford this house for months even on strike.

Im still waiting for you to add just a little value in any of these discussions.

 

[Bloodybrown]

The union only pays when they lose and as for ups losing millions... no im not concerned im happy that they lose this money! If they didnt do the crime than they wouldnt have to do the time. I will ask about jac and will respond to you on it.

Why dont you give us some detail on it, and also if you are in management? If you are why would you be pushing jac? Does ups have their way it at?

Red don't insult the teamsters union. The JAC is the democratic vehicle that is used to resolve grievences, UPS controls nothing there. You are showing your ignorance of how the national process works, educate your self before you slam your brother teamsters, you know local 705 is a small part of the teamsters, they don't run it !!.....and with there current leadership they never will!!