Winter storm Helena

Notcool

Well-Known Member
Ice is completely different than snow. Here in the south snow turns to ice frozen roads. People hit the breaks and on ice that's a no no if you don't have space. Going up a hill too on ice people don't understand you need momentum.
 

silenze

Lunch is the best part of the day
Ice is completely different than snow. Here in the south snow turns to ice frozen roads. People hit the breaks and on ice that's a no no if you don't have space. Going up a hill too on ice people don't understand you need momentum.
WE dont have ice up here in the north
:hail:.........:confused2:
 

MAKAVELI

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I live in one of the snow capitals of the country in a rural mountainous area and do just fine. Did I mention we average 140+inches a year?

You're right about an unmaintained road with 2 feet of unplowed on it. Your 4WD should still have proper tires on it in that case though if you have hills/conditions like that.
I'll take a true 4wd with snows or a good AWD such as a Subaru with snows over FWD any day. 4 wheels turning with grip will always be better than 2.
 

Over 70

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I'll take a true 4wd with snows or a good AWD such as a Subaru with snows over FWD any day. 4 wheels turning with grip will always be better than 2.

Agreed, I think you missed my point or didn't read my original post. Tires are more important. People have 4WD and think it's safer. It's not without the right tools. You just keep repeating something that has nothing to do with what I said. It's annoying
 

MAKAVELI

Well-Known Member
Agreed, I think you missed my point or didn't read my original post. Tires are more important. People have 4WD and think it's safer. It's not without the right tools. Read my original post.
I agree that tires are equally important. But people can have the same false sense of security just because they have snows on. I would say the driver is more important than tires or drivetrain.
 

Catatonic

Nine Lives
Whats that got to do with owning a vehicle you can actually do something with? If you want to be stuck in only a half inch of ice---go for it.
This Southern ice not that Minnesota stuff.
I have two 4W drive vehicles and when it ices here, a 4W drive just spins and gravity determines where you go if at all.
 

Catatonic

Nine Lives
Melting ice is the worst. I agree with what you say.
Melting ice ... that is a nice analogy.
When we get ice, there is little snow mixed with it and the temp is usually just below freezing so any real pressure on the ice turns it to water. Just like ice skaters riding on water, not on ice.
 
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