Wisconsin Court Deems Right to Work Illegal

[milb]

Yea. And as I said before, the opportunities are there for those that have taken the time to earn the job. Nothing is a hand out, you see

I work in a union job, but that's not the point. handout? Why does it always go to someone wanting a handout? I was just asking a question about the jobs you were talking about. If you have the info post it. People take time to earn jobs without degrees too. A lot of people get kicked out of schools because of their noncompliance and rebel attitude and still end up successful. Not about a handout, about jobs

 

[Bubblehead]

I know I wanted to be a GC but fell out of graces with the teachers union...

Their loss, is our gain???

 

[Holydriver]

But seriously, I used to listen to my dad preach the union gospel too. He was in the united steel workers and all seemed fine by him. I remember preaching the same gospel to coworkers in a nice cush office job making a great living who all hated unions. Overtime I started to see what they were saying. I don't mean they convinced me, after leaving the job I lost contact with them. But eventually I started to see what they said made sense. See, I'm not anti union...I work for one and pay dues. But, I'm also not ignorant enough to believe that if not for unions I would be a homeless bum on the streets while these greedy CEOs run amok. It's just not like that. You all have non union friends, compare stories of your work environment to theirs, see who had a better work environment

 

[Bubblehead]

I work in a union job, but that's not the point. handout? Why does it always go to someone wanting a handout? I was just asking a question about the jobs you were talking about. If you have the info post it. People take time to earn jobs without degrees too. A lot of people get kicked out of schools because of their noncompliance and rebel attitude and still end up successful. Not about a handout, about jobs

Took me 8 years of hard labor to earn my right to work 2 more years to make top scale.
I was "handed" nothing.

 

[Bubblehead]

But seriously, I used to listen to my dad preach the union gospel too. He was in the united steel workers and all seemed fine by him. I remember preaching the same gospel to coworkers in a nice cush office job making a great living who all hated unions. Overtime I started to see what they were saying. I don't mean they convinced me, after leaving the job I lost contact with them. But eventually I started to see what they said made sense. See, I'm not anti union...I work for one and pay dues. But, I'm also not ignorant enough to believe that if not for unions I would be a homeless bum on the streets while these greedy CEOs run amok. It's just not like that. You all have non union friends, compare stories of your work environment to theirs, see who had a better work environment

Apples and oranges, blue collar and white collar.

 

[Holydriver]

I work in a union job, but that's not the point. handout? Why does it always go to someone wanting a handout? I was just asking a question about the jobs you were talking about. If you have the info post it. People take time to earn jobs without degrees too. A lot of people get kicked out of schools because of their noncompliance and rebel attitude and still end up successful. Not about a handout, about jobs

I guess it has to do with location. Where a person lives.

 

[milb]

I guess it has to do with location. Where a person lives.

It does. Depends on the cost of living. Check your particular state

 

[Whatbrownwontdoforyou]

I guess it has to do with location. Where a person lives.

So tell us what field are you leaving our union for?

If the answer is ups management I'll fall off my chair

 

[251]

How much does ups CEOs make? Do you have any idea?

Eleven million dollars. Compared to Hoffa's 500k. @Holydriver you realize how wrong you have to be in order for ME to defend Hoffa....right?

 

[Bubblehead]

Eleven million dollars. Compared to H's 500k. @Holydriver you realize how wrong you have to be in order for ME to defend H....right?

They're so cute when they are young?

 

[Holydriver]

So tell us what field are you leaving our union for?

If the answer is ups management I'll fall off my chair

I'd never! Let's just say it's a word on the wall at UPS, yet something mentioned everyday at PCM as if they cared.

 

[Holydriver]

They're so cute when they are young?

Now compare the product that CEO over sees and how popular itnis in America. Say, Steve jobs, very wealthy dude before he died. Helped create Apple....he has earned his millions.

 

[251]

Now compare the product that CEO over sees and how popular itnis in America. Say, Steve jobs, very wealthy dude before he died. Helped create Apple....he has earned his millions.

Ok. He helped create Apple. Fair enough. Now he's dead. (All the money in the world can't stop that) So, do you know how much his salary was at Apple? From 1997 - 2011 he was paid $1.00 per year. That's no BS. He did this because he owned a whole lot of shares in Apple. His philosophy was that if he was doing a good job as CEO, the company would profit and he would become wealthy via his shares in the company. Imagine that.

Now that he's dead, this business executive Tim Cook who had absolutely NOTHING to do with founding the company or helping it grow comes in and replaces Jobs at an annual salary of 65 million per year. Meanwhile, little Chineese children are building all of his products for a bag of rice per day so their families won't starve.

This is perfectly OK with you?

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Ok. He helped create Apple. Fair enough. Now he's dead. (All the money in the world can't stop that) So, do you know how much his salary was at Apple? From 1997 - 2011 he was paid $1.00 per year. That's no BS. He did this because he owned a whole lot of shares in Apple. His philosophy was that if he was doing a good job as CEO, the company would profit and he would become wealthy via his shares in the company. Imagine that.

Now that he's dead, this business executive Tim Cook who had absolutely NOTHING to do with founding the company or helping it grow comes in and replaces Jobs at an annual salary of 65 million per year. Meanwhile, little Chineese children are building all of his products for a bag of rice per day so their families won't starve.

This is perfectly OK with you?

As an Apple shareholder---yes!

 

[Whatbrownwontdoforyou]

I'd never! Let's just say it's a word on the wall at UPS, yet something mentioned everyday at PCM as if they cared.

And how much will you be making 120k?

 

[251]

As an Apple shareholder---yes!

Lmao. I understand why. It would have helped my argument if Tim Cook came in and tanked the company...but he's done well. I don't know about 65 million per year well, but still, you get my point.

 

[realbrown1]

Just google wealthiest counties in the USA, top 2 are in northern Virginia and the other is in Maryland.

So in other words, around our nation's capital.

 

[hyena]

I agree that seasonal employees should not have to pay dues or initiation fees. I also agree that PTers should have a lower multiplier than FTers. However, I do not believe that an employee should be able to use union benefits without at least paying an agency fee, which is usually a bit lower than traditional dues, not do I believe that the union should post lists of those who do and don't pay dues. That is no one's business.

 

[251]

I scoured the Internet looking for the most non-biased explanation of this so called "right to work" legislation and I never would have guessed it, but I found it on Forbes.com...give this a read and see if you still support "right to work"

http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickung...-explained-debunked-demystified/#26e5f0b31f38

 

[barnyard]

According to the articles that I have read, it is probable that the Wisconsin State Supreme court will not uphold the ruling. Because of that, an injunction was not issued stopping the implementation of the law.

Seems like a short-lived, hollow victory to me.