Write ups for using the bathroom, drinking, stretching and timing out bathroom breaks

[GreenRedoubt]

So at my center there being extra hard asses on us preloaders lately to get done before driver start time. This week especially. Today at PCM we were told we had to tell a supervisor when we leave our work area to go to the restroom. If not, it was “a failure to follow instruction.” Several of us got a warning and next time would be write ups. Couldnt find anything in the contract about this, however, I know you can disobey an instruction for 3 reasons: immoral, illegal, and unsafe.
Usually there’s one supervisor in the unload and this past week it’s been 3 constantly watching us. We shouldn’t have to hold our bladder if there is no sup around and we shouldn’t have to tell one if there is. So how do we fight this? Contract article? BOLI? OSHA?
As in the title, people have been called out for drinking while working and stretching too.
I understand why there doing this, some lazy preloaders use the bathroom to avoid work for unbelievable amounts of time. The sup will say “go unload door 3” then the preloader goes to the bathroom literally up to 40 mins while someone else covers for them. Some 20-30 mins at a time multiple times a day when we’re guaranteed 3 1/2 hours.
Also 2 unloaders will go at a “safe pace” and take 2-2 1/2 hours for a trailer that’s at least 800 pieces and 5+ hours for a 53.
As you can see, my center is a show

 

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https://www.osha.gov/restrooms-sanitation#:~:text=Employers%20must%3A,use%20a%20restroom%20when%20needed.

 

[BadIdeaGuy]

https://www.osha.gov/restrooms-sanitation#:~:text=Employers%20must%3A,use%20a%20restroom%20when%20needed.

Doesn’t sound like an OSHA issue here. Or a contract violation.

They’re not stopping you from going. You just have to tell them you’re going.

Trying to stop part timers wandering around, I’d guess.

 

[Red Devil]

Doesn’t sound like an OSHA issue here. Or a contract violation.

They’re not stopping you from going. You just have to tell them you’re going.

Trying to stop part timers wandering around, I’d guess.

Right lol they just want to be able to figure out if they need coverage while these guys disappear to go burn one

 

[P£INinY0uR***UnionGuy8564]

Right lol they just want to be able to figure out if they need coverage while these guys disappear to go burn one

They don't call it the United Pot Smokers for nothing.

 

[DriverNerd]

If they want you to tell them you're going to the bathroom, just walk around until you find one and tell them. As for drinking, if supervisors are harassed you for drinking water at UPS in the summer, then file a harassment grievance against them.

 

[P£INinY0uR***UnionGuy8564]

Seems like harassment. Have your union steward talk to them and if the problem persists file a grievance. Perhaps even an anonymous complaint with OSHA. One with your name on it if you're living in the edge.

 

[I have NOT been lurking]

They don't call it the United Pot Smokers for nothing.

I hate non Class A people
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[P£INinY0uR***UnionGuy8564]

I hate non Class A people
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Class ACT

 

[I have NOT been lurking]

Class ACT

Stop doing drugs and join us. You get to look down on everyone else like you're a lord

 

[P£INinY0uR***UnionGuy8564]

Stop doing drugs and join us. You get to look down on everyone else like you're a lord
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But will I need to start taking heart medication if I go to feeder? Lol

 

[I have NOT been lurking]

But will I need to start taking heart medication if I go to feeder? Lol

Just go carnivore diet and pay attention. Yield to everyone

 

[P£INinY0uR***UnionGuy8564]

Just go carnivore diet and pay attention. Yield to everyone

Gonna ride out this year with package car and see what comes of it. If they don't hire permanently will definitely try feeder.

 

[burrheadd]

So at my center there being extra hard asses on us preloaders lately to get done before driver start time. This week especially. Today at PCM we were told we had to tell a supervisor when we leave our work area to go to the restroom. If not, it was “a failure to follow instruction.” Several of us got a warning and next time would be write ups. Couldnt find anything in the contract about this, however, I know you can disobey an instruction for 3 reasons: immoral, illegal, and unsafe.
Usually there’s one supervisor in the unload and this past week it’s been 3 constantly watching us. We shouldn’t have to hold our bladder if there is no sup around and we shouldn’t have to tell one if there is. So how do we fight this? Contract article? BOLI? OSHA?
As in the title, people have been called out for drinking while working and stretching too.
I understand why there doing this, some lazy preloaders use the bathroom to avoid work for unbelievable amounts of time. The sup will say “go unload door 3” then the preloader goes to the bathroom literally up to 40 mins while someone else covers for them. Some 20-30 mins at a time multiple times a day when we’re guaranteed 3 1/2 hours.
Also 2 unloaders will go at a “safe pace” and take 2-2 1/2 hours for a trailer that’s at least 800 pieces and 5+ hours for a 53.
As you can see, my center is a show

Piss all over yourself next time you can’t find a supe See how that goes

 

[textat3]

What does Carol do when she has to go to the bathroom?

Depends.

 

[Red Devil]

I hate non Class A people
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Says the preloader

 

[MangoMango]

Doesn’t sound like an OSHA issue here. Or a contract violation.

They’re not stopping you from going. You just have to tell them you’re going.

Trying to stop part timers wandering around, I’d guess.

I can remember a lot of part timers wandering around during the sort, back in the day. LOL

 

[P£INinY0uR***UnionGuy8564]

If they're singing out a single group of employees or an employee then it's harassment. Aside from that you have a right to use the bathroom. I had a supervisor follow me to the bathroom twice and the second time I got a Steward. They never bothered me again.

 

[TheBrownNote]

It is not unreasonable to Inform your boss that you're leaving your position to use the bathroom, if they instruct you to inform them.

However, If they are making you ask permission to use the bathroom, that is unreasonable.


Tell them, go use the bathroom, then tell them your back, and go back to work.
Stop making it anything other than that.

Grow a pair, or your pants. Its Your call, Not your supervisor

Wtaf is going on with reason these days

 

[P£INinY0uR***UnionGuy8564]

Wtaf is going on with reason these days

Do you personally tell your supervisor that you're going to use the bathroom?