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rickyb

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No Florman.. he's a myth from a book of fairytales according to the 10 year old Canuk.
its a good possibility none of that exaggerated stuff happened to jesus. u should stop obsessing over whether its real or not, the question is based on the message, how are we supposed to act?

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/the-suicide-of-the-liberal-church/

kevin Kruse in his book “One Nation Under God: How Corporate America Invented Christian America” details how industrialists in the 1930s and 1940s poured money and resources into an effort to silence the social witness of the mainstream church, which was home to many radicals, socialists and proponents of the New Deal. These corporatists promoted and funded a brand of Christianity—which is today dominant—that conflates faith with free enterprise and American exceptionalism. The rich are rich, this creed goes, not because they are greedy or privileged, not because they use their power to their own advantage, not because they oppress the poor and the vulnerable, but because they are blessed. And if we have enough faith, this heretical form of Christianity claims, God will bless the rest of us too. It is an inversion of the central message of the Gospel. You don’t need to spend three years at Harvard Divinity School as I did to figure that out. The liberal church committed suicide when it severed itself from radicalism. Radical Christians led the abolitionist movement, were active in the Anti-Imperialist League, participated in the bloody labor wars, fought for women’s suffrage, formulated the Social Gospel—which included a huge effort to carry out prison reform and provide education to prisoners—and were engines in the civil rights and anti-war movements. Norman Thomas, a longtime leader of the Socialist Party of America, was a Presbyterian minister.

These radicals generally were not embraced by the church hierarchy, which served as a bulwark of the establishment, but they kept the church vital and prophetic. They made it relevant and important to the oppressed, the poor and to workingmen and -women. Radicals were and are its hope.
 

BrownFlush

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its a good possibility none of that exaggerated stuff happened to jesus. u should stop obsessing over whether its real or not, the question is based on the message, how are we supposed to act?

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/the-suicide-of-the-liberal-church/

kevin Kruse in his book “One Nation Under God: How Corporate America Invented Christian America” details how industrialists in the 1930s and 1940s poured money and resources into an effort to silence the social witness of the mainstream church, which was home to many radicals, socialists and proponents of the New Deal. These corporatists promoted and funded a brand of Christianity—which is today dominant—that conflates faith with free enterprise and American exceptionalism. The rich are rich, this creed goes, not because they are greedy or privileged, not because they use their power to their own advantage, not because they oppress the poor and the vulnerable, but because they are blessed. And if we have enough faith, this heretical form of Christianity claims, God will bless the rest of us too. It is an inversion of the central message of the Gospel. You don’t need to spend three years at Harvard Divinity School as I did to figure that out. The liberal church committed suicide when it severed itself from radicalism. Radical Christians led the abolitionist movement, were active in the Anti-Imperialist League, participated in the bloody labor wars, fought for women’s suffrage, formulated the Social Gospel—which included a huge effort to carry out prison reform and provide education to prisoners—and were engines in the civil rights and anti-war movements. Norman Thomas, a longtime leader of the Socialist Party of America, was a Presbyterian minister.

These radicals generally were not embraced by the church hierarchy, which served as a bulwark of the establishment, but they kept the church vital and prophetic. They made it relevant and important to the oppressed, the poor and to workingmen and -women. Radicals were and are its hope.

Why are you talkin' so much?
 

rickyb

Well-Known Member
the interlocking systems of institutional
oppression work to keep the poor trapped in what Martin Luther King called our internal
colonies. Living in the inner city also opened my
eyes to the easy rhetoric of some of
those in the liberal church, those who like the poor but do not like the smell of the poor.
Service is not simply about saying the right thing.
It is about doing the right thing, what
the Reformed tradition calls our works.

http://elizabethpresbytery.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Hedges-Chris-SOF-BIO.pdf
 

floridays

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FYI jesus fought the powerful.
FYI, Jesus fought no one. He revealed his Father, he healed and restored. Peter cut off the ear of a centurion, (powerful opponent) and Jesus restored his ear.
I will never attack your thoughts on your beliefs of God's Lamb, as you are, such WAS I. May God reveal his Grace, through his Son to you. I'm a larger POS than you and I've been forgiven. But quite frankly, I'm still a POS. Only forgiven.
 

rickyb

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Absolutely nothing, he told us absolutely nothing to do politically or economically. You tell us great oracle, teach the class.
Q Yes, but you’ve said you question the point of studying them when people go into the outside world and —

A And don’t act on them. . . . My criticism of the church is that you [study] the Gospels and then you go out and you don’t fight for them.
You give credibility to the Christian right. If you define the anti-Christ as that movement which essentially defies everything Christ stood for, then, to me, the Christian right is the anti-Christ. It promotes greed, it’s the gospel of prosperity — Jesus comes to fulfil your material wants — it’s chauvinistic, it demonizes the other, all of which, I think, are absolutely contrary to the fundamental message of the Gospels. And the liberal church doesn’t say anything.

Interview with Chris Hedges
 

rickyb

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FYI, Jesus fought no one. He revealed his Father, he healed and restored. Peter cut off the ear of a centurion, (powerful opponent) and Jesus restored his ear.
I will never attack your thoughts on your beliefs of God's Lamb, as you are, such WAS I. May God reveal his Grace, through his Son to you. I'm a larger POS than you and I've been forgiven. But quite frankly, I'm still a POS. Only forgiven.
Jesus also got violent with the money changers.

and im relatively christ like compared to everyone else i share this earth with. i live amongst cynical narcissists. the opposite of religion.

if you only think about ME ME ME, are rude to people, and dont do anything for justice or the least amongst us, then you probably are a POS. maybe not as bad as a politician or a white collar crook.
 

floridays

Well-Known Member
the interlocking systems of institutional
oppression work to keep the poor trapped in what Martin Luther King called our internal
colonies. Living in the inner city also opened my
eyes to the easy rhetoric of some of
those in the liberal church, those who like the poor but do not like the smell of the poor.
Service is not simply about saying the right thing.
It is about doing the right thing, what
the Reformed tradition calls our works.

http://elizabethpresbytery.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Hedges-Chris-SOF-BIO.pdf
Complete liberal BS.
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rickyb

Well-Known Member
Q You’ve said that everything you fight for may be worse by the end of your life. Yet you still think it’s worthwhile.

A Yes, because faith is not about what you accomplish. Faith is about fighting for the good, in so far as we can determine it, and then letting it go. We believe that it goes somewhere even if all the empirical evidence says otherwise.

That’s what faith is. It’s not about Jesus giving me a Cadillac or something. Faith is accompanied by tremendous doubt. So one believes finally that the good attracts the good, but it may be that, within our lifetime, everything we see deteriorates. But that doesn’t invalidate what we’ve done.

Interview with Chris Hedges

chris aint no liberal either.
 

floridays

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Q Yes, but you’ve said you question the point of studying them when people go into the outside world and —

A And don’t act on them. . . . My criticism of the church is that you [study] the Gospels and then you go out and you don’t fight for them.
You give credibility to the Christian right. If you define the anti-Christ as that movement which essentially defies everything Christ stood for, then, to me, the Christian right is the anti-Christ. It promotes greed, it’s the gospel of prosperity — Jesus comes to fulfil your material wants — it’s chauvinistic, it demonizes the other, all of which, I think, are absolutely contrary to the fundamental message of the Gospels. And the liberal church doesn’t say anything.

Interview with Chris Hedges
That isn't even humor, Chis Hedges knee will bow, and his tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God.
Not my opinion, just a little thing I read and accept as truth. If I can offer some advice, don't put your faith in Chris Hedges.
 

rickyb

Well-Known Member
That isn't even humor, Chis Hedges knee will bow, and his tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God.
Not my opinion, just a little thing I read and accept as truth. If I can offer some advice, don't put your faith in Chris Hedges.
the question is how are you supposed to act?

and i quote hedges first because he did the best job at explaining what i saw in star wars, the matrix, braveheart, snowden, assange, manning, martin king, etc which were likely partly inspired by jesus.

resurrection to me is letting the old ideas die, so new ones can grow. and when you do something good, and it repeats because other ppl did it.
 
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