30 day progression NOT being honored

[Indecisi0n]

But FYI if you are me at McDonald's I'll be eating not working.. You can bet your ass on that one

Ewwww McDonald's gives me the squirts....the bad kind.

 

[Bubblehead]

So I applied for a full time driver position, completed the integral process and have been working for UPS for more than the 30 work days required to officially become a full time driver. Management says because the last few weeks have been peak season that they are unsure if I can handle the workload. Can they deny me my full time status or do they have to promote me since I've completely 30 days?

We need to know what regional supplement you are working under in order to answer this question???

 

[Bubblehead]

The 30 days doesn't count in November and December unless you was already in the union and bid that job.

How do you figure that???

 

[allahuakbar]

Just because you did your 30 days doesn’t mean anything. You’re basically in limbo till January 14th. Good luck.

 

[Bubblehead]

Just because you did your 30 days doesn’t mean anything. You’re basically in limbo till January 14th. Good luck.

If they started ahead of the "seasonal period" without an extension being granted by the Local, why would that be the case???

 

[allahuakbar]

If they started ahead of the "seasonal period" without an extension being granted by the Local, why would that be the case???

Because he hasn’t been hired. He’s just a casual. Until he does his phone call he’s nothing but a casual. He started during the freeze too.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

How do you figure that???

He was hired off of the street

 

[Bubblehead]

Because he hasn’t been hired. He’s just a casual. Until he does his phone call he’s nothing but a casual. He started during the freeze too.

Thanks for the info and I yeah I started before November and December.

Looks to me as if he started before the "seasonal period"???

If so, in the Central Region, that makes him a "probationary employee".

 

[Bubblehead]

He was hired off of the street

So what???

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

So???

It's the free period. Do you not know this?

 

[allahuakbar]

The freeze starts in October

 

[Bubblehead]

It's the free period. Do you not know this?

Not if he was hired before the defined "seasonal period", unless the Local agreed to an "extension"....otherwise he was hired as a "probationary employee" (see Art 1 of the Central Region Supplement).

Can't speak for other regions, but you are for sure in the Central, right???

Thanks for the info and I yeah I started before November and December.

 

[Bubblehead]

The freeze starts in October

Not in the Central Region, without an extension from the Local.

Here, it's from November 1st thru the second full week in January.

Where are you from Pookie???

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Not if he was hired before the defined "seasonal period", unless the Local agreed to an "extension"....otherwise he was hired as a "probationary employee" (see Art 1 of the Central Region Supplement).

Can't speak for other regions, but you are for sure in the Central, right???

30 in 90
Those days in between doesn't count

 

[Brownroundtown]

I work in the Bay Area Sunnyvale/San Jose and I read something online in one of the union articles that says seasonal employees can't be hired before October 15 and I was hired before then.

 

[Brownroundtown]

30 in 90
Those days in between doesn't count

So what does 30 in 90 mean? That means you work 30 days within 90 days correct?

 

[Bubblehead]

30 in 90
Those days in between doesn't count

Article 1 of the CRSA clearly defines the difference between a "probationary employee" and a "seasonal employee" by subsections (a) and (b) respectively.

Only the "Seasonal Employee" language, subsection (b) provides for:

"Time worked from November 1st through the Friday of the second full week of January of the following year not accrue toward seniority"

The "Probationary Employee" language, subsection (a), carries with it no such so-called freeze period distinction.

 

[Dough99]

If you started driving before October 15 then all days will count

 

[zubenelgenubi]

I work in the Bay Area Sunnyvale/San Jose and I read something online in one of the union articles that says seasonal employees can't be hired before October 15 and I was hired before then.

Ask your steward for your BA's number. He will be better able to answer your questions.

 

[Bubblehead]

If you started driving before October 15 then all days will count

How do you figure???