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NC man

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What’s a long position?
long is you buy a stock, say Coke, expecting it go up and make a profit, You are long on Coca Cola.
Short selling involves borrowing stock you do not own, selling the borrowed stock, and then buying and returning the stock only if and when the price drops. Short selling is very risky but in this market maybe not so much. If you shorted FDX a few days ago you are in good shape right now. key words ,right now.
 

Up In Smoke

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long is you buy a stock, say Coke, expecting it go up and make a profit, You are long on Coca Cola.
Short selling involves borrowing stock you do not own, selling the borrowed stock, and then buying and returning the stock only if and when the price drops. Short selling is very risky but in this market maybe not so much. If you shorted FDX a few days ago you are in good shape right now. key words ,right now.
I would leave the short selling to the heavily funded trader. What I would prefer to see investors do is buy a put as protection against an economic down turn. Say you own Coke, and it's at $60/share and you want to protect your asset. Through your margin account you would bid on contracts that protect a certain dollar loss, say $57 or 5%. In most instances the cost per share to insure a small loss of this nature would cost a premium of less than 1%. Duration of the contract brings more risk and the premium will reflect that also. So, for the Coke example you purchased 10 November 18th put contracts (1000 shares) at a strike price of $57, it would cost you $.12/ share or a grand total of $120.00. If the stock price of Coke dropped to your strike price and it closed, you would profit $3000.00 less the $120.00. If the stock price never reaches the $57 before the expiration date you lose only the $120.00. Where the real money comes in is if the stock drops well below your strike price. In US trading your allowed to close the transaction before expiration, giving you the ability to close at any time. Traders can also utilize stop/loss functions to guarantee a profit. It's important to remember, you also own the underlying asset whose value has dropped, but you've insured the loss and in many cases made far more on the down turn than what the underlying asset lost. Where things get real profitable is when you have an option in the money, you take your profits and buy new positions (calls or puts). This is called stringing options and now your using house money to protect your investments. Hope this made sense and helps.
 

Up In Smoke

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With the Economy the way it is now. Similar to 2008/9. If you don’t mind sharing; what are some of the #’s career PT or FT Fedex employees were able to save over the years in the 401k? And any strategies to ride out this crap besides moving all the money to bonds?!
What's important to remember is the stock market is not the economy. The Federal reserve controls the money flowing into and out of the economy. Since 2008, the Fed has been injecting money into the economy (QE) and lowering the funds rate to stimulate borrowing. From 2016- 2019 the Fed attempted to raise rates and trim it's balance sheet in an attempt to let the economy grow organically. These attempts failed and they were left again with injecting money and lowering rates. We all know what happened in 2020 with the huge injection of money into the economy ( PPP, SBA, stimulus and subsidies) by the Federal Government. The Fed announced (too little and too late) that 2022-2023 they would be raising rates and selling off assets in an attempt again to let the economy grow organically. They attempting to extract trillions of dollars of Federal dollars from our economy over the course of the next couple years, so hold on it's going to be bumpy.
 

fatboy33

Well-Known Member
How many people can pick stock winners consistently or time the market correctly?

no one that I know of. Buffet and just a handful out of 8 billion people on the planet.

That is why we use Index Funds at Vanguard. very low cost and good returns safely . past performance does not guarantee future results......blah blah blah.
Nancy Pelsoi can....
 

Lineandinitial

Legio patria nostra
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olroadbeech

Happy Verified UPSer
I'm afraid to look at my balance.
Dow has fallen from 36k to nearly 28k

we take take the hit for now. hopefully it will go back up as usual.....but no such thing as normal anymore.
 

floridays

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If eligible you get it when you retire,pretty sure you must be at least 55. I’m not sure after 65,fedex probably assumes you would go Medicare.can go to the retirement site and get all the details.
Well the chart by McFeely shows 65 or older 11k so at 66 67 etc it stays at 11k. Don’t think Fed has many couriers over 65.
I don't mean to be critical, Fedex has more than couriers.
Many of the not courier group are over 65 and the same benefit applies.
 

McFeely

Huge Member
I just checked my 401k. Down 23.41% YTD. Ouch.
When the market is as chitty as it’s been, I try not to check frequently. That being said, I always look at the end of each month out of curiosity.

Down 19% over the last 12 months here. Still bumping up my contribution every year and hoping for the best. At least my PPA still had a consistent return lol
 

olroadbeech

Happy Verified UPSer
I'm still holding on to a positive return YTD. Dividends make it look better than it is.
I actually upped my monthly automatic investments during this whole downturn. Sure it's a gamble.

the whole market is a casino. as long as we keep healthy reserves in cash I'm willing to gamble going on past performances.

If the market never comes back it will be the first time.....
 
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