Abortion

[Whitelexus]

And another thing...no I’m kidding, I’m sounding off for now haha

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

I don’t typically play into the bipartisan division but what strikes me as the most interesting stance, taken by many Republicans, is this facade of righteousness for pro-life; however, it seems when it boils down to supporting the, primarily lower socioeconomic group—whom have a substantially higher rate of teenage pregnancy, birth out of wedlock, children born with chemical dependency issues etc—Republicans seem to pull against the welfare programs that support their “pro-life” stance. Please enlighten me!

Pro life is a misnomer.
Pro birth is more accurate.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

Another problem with the pro life movement-while playing the seemingly humanitarian card, a basic rights violation of (some of) the mothers’ is foregone. What about these expectant mothers whom were raped? Incest cases? Teenage KIDS without a proper support system? You honestly believe that (with most of these cases) both/either child and mother are going to be able to, realistically, live anything above poverty-level lifestyle? Is that what pro-life affords? It doesn’t affect you, but it’s easy to make yourself feel better about calling ALL abortion cases “murder.” Gtfo Most of these pro-life supporters seem to completely disregard this reality.

Well you see, fetuses are human beings, every life is precious and to terminate a pregnancy is murder!

But but but, if it's a rape or incest baby, it's all good go ahead and kill it they don't count

Lol.
Blatant hypocrisy.

 

[BrownFlush]

But but but, if it's a rape or incest baby, it's all good go ahead and kill it they don't count
Lol.
Blatant hypocrisy.

Never read that on this forum.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

Never read that on this forum.

I don't care what you haven't read bro.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

I don't care what you haven't read bro.

 

[vantexan]

Well you see, fetuses are human beings, every life is precious and to terminate a pregnancy is murder!

But but but, if it's a rape or incest baby, it's all good go ahead and kill it they don't count

Lol.
Blatant hypocrisy.

No, compassion for a victim of rape or incest. If done shortly after the violence it's just a very small mass of cells. Not an invasive procedure that rips apart a baby. Do you understand that?

 

[Whitelexus]

Pro life is a misnomer.
Pro birth is more accurate.

There’s the enlightenment, thank you! Lol
How do you pronounce tomato?

 

[Frankie's Friend]

Not yet
“Tampon tax” is still applicable in the majority of states yet Viagra and Rogaine are tax-free. Hmmmm

Every state should pull the plug on that tax.

 

[Whitelexus]

Well you see, fetuses are human beings, every life is precious and to terminate a pregnancy is murder!

But but but, if it's a rape or incest baby, it's all good go ahead and kill it they don't count

Lol.
Blatant hypocrisy.

There’s something to be said for quality of life. If your belief system is so strong, that’s admirable, but don’t you also believe that these “evil-doers” (aka women who have abortions) already must face their sins in the afterlife—or in some cases, this life? Who are you to judge or to control the actions of others? That sounds like a hypocritical Christian. Then again, it is a power wielding technique...best learned from religion! Yay!!
Dichotomous thinking is myopic.

 

[Frankie's Friend]

I don’t typically play into the bipartisan division but what strikes me as the most interesting stance, taken by many Republicans, is this facade of righteousness for pro-life; however, it seems when it boils down to supporting the, primarily lower socioeconomic group—whom have a substantially higher rate of teenage pregnancy, birth out of wedlock, children born with chemical dependency issues etc—Republicans seem to pull against the welfare programs that support their “pro-life” stance. Please enlighten me!

The obvious enlightenment (to me) is that you cant fix the problems from the top down.
The root of many issuses listed here starts at home, or the lack thereof.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

No, compassion for a victim of rape or incest. If done shortly after the violence it's just a very small mass of cells. Not an invasive procedure that rips apart a baby. Do you understand that?

No need some clarification.
At what point does this very small mass of cells become a human being?

 

[Whitelexus]

The obvious enlightenment (to me) is that you cant fix the problems from the top down.
The root of many issuses listed here starts at home, or the lack thereof.

There really needs to be more people in this world. That’ll solve it

 

[Frankie's Friend]

There’s something to be said for quality of life. If your belief system is so strong, that’s admirable, but don’t you also believe that these “evil-doers” (aka women who have abortions) already must face their sins in the afterlife—or in some cases, this life? Who are you to judge or to control the actions of others? That sounds like a hypocritical Christian. Then again, it is a power wielding technique...best learned from religion! Yay!!
Dichotomous thinking is myopic.

I agree with you on many of these statements and the failure of people to actually live what they say they believe is not helping the confusion. Many of us fit that category. Or should I say most of us.

Unfortunately, it is sliding the wrong direction.

 

[Frankie's Friend]

There really needs to be more people in this world. That’ll solve it

More like we need more people who live their lives to help their neighbor, raise their own children and being an adult while doing it, and realize that planting a garden without weeding it on a consistent basis creates a fertile place for weeds to grow and choke the life out of them.

 

[Frankie's Friend]

More like we need more people who live their lives to help their neighbor, raise their own children a be an adult while doing it, and realize that planting a garden without weeding it on a consistent basis creates a fertile place for weeds to grow and choke the life out of them.

Edited and augmented. It's too early for complex thought.

 

[Whitelexus]

Edited and augmented. It's too early for complex thought.

My point will always remain at the top of my head! Hahaha

 

[BrownFlush]

1." The mother has a right to control her own body." -- She not only has the right, she has an obligation. If she would have controlled her own body, she would not be pregnant and wanting to kill the unborn child to avoid the consequence of her immorality... Her body, but wait, now there is another body without rights?
2." The unborn is not really human till its born."-- If it is not human, what is it? Is it mineral, vegetable , animal? The only difference in an unborn and a born baby is location and developmental stage and size.
3. " It's better to abort a child than abuse one or have it raised in poverty." -- What more severe form of child abuse can be committed than to kill a child.
4. " We can't legislate morality." -- We legislate morals everyday. If morality can't be legislated we need to remove the moral laws we have incorporated into criminal law..rape, incest, stealing. etc.
5."People are going to have abortions anyway so we might as well legalize it." -- If this is valid it should be equally valid with other criminal acts. Since people are going to commit murder, rape,incest, wife abuse, child abuse.. lets legalize them.

 

[BrownFlush]

I don't care what you haven't read bro.

No class....again.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

4. " We can't legislate morality." -- We legislate morals everyday. If morality can't be legislated we need to remove the moral laws we have incorporated into criminal law..rape, incest, stealing. etc.

Exactly.
Roe v Wade. The morality is no longer up for debate.

Feel free to practice your religious beliefs, but the legality of abortion is decided.