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newfie

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I get it now. The primordial gasses that existed before the big bang were just the creators flatulence.
As it is written, so shall it be settled.

we dont know that the primordial gases existed , no that the big bank happened. thats your faith telling you that.

the big bang is based on an expanding universe . the expanding universe or specifically the movement of matter can be proven the bang can not. thus the term theory
 

BrownFlush

Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
I'm willing to consider the option if they can take a lump of clay and stick it in an oven and create a life form
Wait a minute NewfMan....
Sounds good but to be fair they would have to make their own clay after they made their own dirt and water.
 

It will be fine

Well-Known Member
we dont know that the primordial gases existed , no that the big bank happened. thats your faith telling you that.

the big bang is based on an expanding universe . the expanding universe or specifically the movement of matter can be proven the bang can not. thus the term theory
Way to demonstrate your lack of understanding of what a scientific theory is. Do you question the theory of gravity as well?
 

BrownFlush

Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
the bible says
Thats not up for discussion here. Except to poke fun and demean.
All these enlightened scholars that don't know if something can come from nothing.

Dawkins looks like a fool as do many others. If you don't want to give him 5 minutes as he buries himself... start @ around 5 min. 20 seconds
 
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BrownFlush

Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
You said your god came from nothing.

Then you said someone who thinks something can come from nothing is dumb.

Ok then.
God is a Spirit. He is not physical and cannot be thought of or measured on those terms. Physical things have a beginning and an end. An Eternal Being (God, Diety) has no beginning or end. God always was and always will be.
 

newfie

Well-Known Member
Way to demonstrate your lack of understanding of what a scientific theory is. Do you question the theory of gravity as well?

Now you're trying to take me around the barn but in the process you put me on the right path. the big bang theory measures the movement of known particles in the universe and determines they are moving apart. it Therefore assumes that those particles were together and exploded propelling them thus the big bang theory.

As such the movement is known the bang is not known thus it is a scientific theory not fact based but our best guess using very limited scientific knowledge.

there could for instance be even larger bodies that we have not discovered on opposite sides of our universe that are exerting forces similar to gravity causing that movement . that would be one possible cause of that movement and if later discovered would completely rule out big bang and then take us in a different direction.

certainly external forces pulling rather then internal propelling is a realistic possibility

we are but a fraction of that incredible universe that exists and all things are possible even the possibility that our god is a much larger child playing with his planet and galaxy toys. who knows.

but to totally discount a higher creating force when so much of our universe is undiscovered seems to be a bit premature. lets have this discussion again in a couple zillion billion years when we come back through time travel or such. :)
 

bottomups

Bad Moon Risen'
we dont know that the primordial gases existed , no that the big bank happened. thats your faith telling you that.

the big bang is based on an expanding universe . the expanding universe or specifically the movement of matter can be proven the bang can not. thus the term theory
I can accept that it is theory since it is not yet proven. A creator would fall under the same parameters as he/she/it hasn't been proven.
 

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Bad Moon Risen'
On the sixth day god created creatures to fill the land. Does that mean that for those 24 hours humans walked this rock with dinosaurs?
 
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