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Old Man Jingles

Rat out of a cage
Of course. Think it's just a matter of semantics. The passed down theories did serve as explanations for the populace.
No kiddin'.

Yours must be it all came from nothing cause you have nothing else.
Again, that's the only two answers out there..You came up with one of those twelve origin ideas to share yet?
I think attributing anything to an act of a god just because it can't be explained at present is a position of weakness in itself. If I say "I don't know", and you say "I have faith", you haven't come any closer to a reasonable explanation for something than I have.
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Box Ox

Well-Known Member

Faith-based theory?

"The Belgian astronomer and Catholic priest Georges Lemaître proposed on theoretical grounds that the universe is expanding, which was observationally confirmed soon afterwards by Edwin Hubble.[15][16] In 1927 in the Annales de la Société Scientifique de Bruxelles (Annals of the Scientific Society of Brussels) under the title "Un Univers homogène de masse constante et de rayon croissant rendant compte de la vitesse radiale des nébuleuses extragalactiques" ("A homogeneous Universe of constant mass and growing radius accounting for the radial velocity of extragalactic nebulae"),[17] he presented his new idea that the universe is expanding and provided the first observational estimation of what is known as the Hubble constant.[18] What later will be known as the "Big Bang theory" of the origin of the universe, he called his "hypothesis of the primeval atom" or the "Cosmic Egg".[19]

American astronomer Edwin Hubble observed that the distances to faraway galaxies were strongly correlated with their redshifts. This was interpreted to mean that all distant galaxies and clusters are receding away from our vantage point with an apparent velocity proportional to their distance: that is, the farther they are, the faster they move away from us, regardless of direction.[20] Assuming the Copernican principle (that the Earth is not the center of the universe), the only remaining interpretation is that all observable regions of the universe are receding from all others. Since we know that the distance between galaxies increases today, it must mean that in the past galaxies were closer together. The continuous expansion of the universe implies that the universe was denser and hotter in the past.

Large particle accelerators can replicate the conditions that prevailed after the early moments of the universe, resulting in confirmation and refinement of the details of the Big Bang model. However, these accelerators can only probe so far into high energy regimes. Consequently, the state of the universe in the earliest instants of the Big Bang expansion is still poorly understood and an area of open investigation and speculation.

The first subatomic particles to be formed included protons, neutrons, and electrons. Though simple atomic nuclei formed within the first three minutes after the Big Bang, thousands of years passed before the first electrically neutral atoms formed. The majority of atoms produced by the Big Bang were hydrogen, along with helium and traces of lithium. Giant clouds of these primordial elements later coalesced through gravity to form stars and galaxies, and the heavier elements were synthesized either within stars or during supernovae.

The Big Bang theory offers a comprehensive explanation for a broad range of observed phenomena, including the abundance of light elements, the CMB, large scale structure, and Hubble's Law.[9] The framework for the Big Bang model relies on Albert Einstein's theory of general relativity and on simplifying assumptions such as homogeneity and isotropy of space. The governing equations were formulated by Alexander Friedmann, and similar solutions were worked on by Willem de Sitter. Since then, astrophysicists have incorporated observational and theoretical additions into the Big Bang model, and its parametrization as the Lambda-CDM model serves as the framework for current investigations of theoretical cosmology. The Lambda-CDM model is the current "standard model" of Big Bang cosmology, consensus is that it is the simplest model that can account for the various measurements and observations relevant to cosmology."
 

BrownFlush

Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
The car in your driveway has a concrete explanation for its existence. Of course there's no faith involved.
SMH.
No Creator. ( what ever you do don't go there )
Something can't come from nothing ( I really would look stupid then )

Ohhh..we just can't know..yeah that's it...I'm not going to admit to the only two possibilities so.....we just can't know....lol
 

Box Ox

Well-Known Member
As is 'Attributing creation (Big Bang) to Nothing.'

The Big Bang Theory never claims to know, and does not try to explain what came before it. Everything it does try to explain is the culmination of years of scientifically-based observation.

SMH.
No Creator. ( what ever you do don't go there )
Something can't come from nothing ( I really would look stupid then )

Ohhh..we just can't know..yeah that's it...I'm not going to admit to the only two possibilities so.....we just can't know....lol

Never said we can't know. Said we don't know. What we know will of course increase over time. But not knowing the basis of something right now doesn't mean we should assume it's attributable to a god.
 

BrownFlush

Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
Never said we can't know. Said we don't know. What we know will of course increase over time. But not knowing the basis of something right now doesn't mean we should assume it's attributable to a god.
You can know someone made and designed the car you drive-- But you don't know if someone made and designed the world you live in or the physical body that is yours?
Ok.
 

Old Man Jingles

Rat out of a cage
The Big Bang Theory never claims to know, and does not try to explain what came before it. Everything it does try to explain is the culmination of years of scientifically-based observation.



Never said we can't know. Said we don't know. What we know will of course increase over time. But not knowing the basis of something right now doesn't mean we should assume it's attributable to a god.
You can know someone made and designed the car you drive-- But you don't know that if someone made and designed the world you live in or the physical body that is yours?
Ok.
Can we agree we don’t know diddily?
 

Box Ox

Well-Known Member
You can know someone made and designed the car you drive-- But you don't know that if someone made and designed the world you live in or the physical body that is yours?
Ok.

World: Of natural creation. Billions of years old.

Physical body: Observed origin with fully verifiable history.
 
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