The main problem with AV8 and those "like" him on this board, is that they are captivated by Rhetoric.
One of the keys to the republican party's existence is the non stop repetitious rhetoric they spread on cable news and am radio.
FAUX news is now an official ARM of the republican party. With its lineup of bashers (BECK, ORIELLY, HANNITY, INGRAHAM, HUCKABEE, CHRIS WALLACE) they can provide hours of repetitious nonsense over and over.
Each one in concert with the other, each one using the same "terms" and speaking points.
With Beck, hours of polling to gauge his style proved to be good for FAUX.
His style of extreme exageration is nauseating to the informed person, but to those inclined to follow the party rhetoric, he is a master.
His use of props and chalkboards drawing lines from one thing to another convinces his followers that he knows what he's talking about. In fact, he doesnt. Its the style that his followers are connecting with. The facial movements, his constant hand shaking and his passionate tone in his voice are his "magnets" to his ill-informed audiences.
He surrounds himself with the constitution, the flag, the founding fathers and the constant mention of the "republic". This attracts the dumbest audience.
His audience goes on to repeat everything he sez like its gospel.
The main problem I have with right wingers is that they forget why they were thrown out of office in 2006 and 2008.
Guys like TIEGUY consistently claim that the country went south after 2006 when the dems took control of congress.. Two problems with his claim, yet he consistently makes the same comment over and over...
First, the dems took control of congress (both houses) in January 2007 and NOT 2006 like he claims. This is the exact type of exageration the republican party wants it members to repeat. THe Dems were elected to office in NOV of 06 but they couldnt hold office until the next start of congress in 07.
Second, if the country was heading in the right direction under the leadership of BUSH and the republican controlled congress, WHY THEN were they systematically removed from power? TIEGUY sez the country was doing well under BUSH and it wasnt until the DEMS took office that the country crashed. In reality, the American public was already seeing the disaster coming. Unemployment was rising faster than ever in history, businesses were closing faster than ever, corporations were leaving our shores for foreign lands faster than in anytime in history, pensions for 100's of companies were going into the PBGC by the hundreds for the first time in history, the dollar was at an ALL TIME LOW and in threat of being replaced by the EURO as world currency.
These were the realities of BUSH along with 2 failing wars and numerious deaths of our troops and 1 trillion dollars spent with no way to pay for it.
Indeed BUSH is gone, Thank GOD, but his legacy is being felt by us all today.
BUSH failed us in both wars and today, there is no clear answer to solving the question of how we end them.
One way or the other, our troops must get out of both countries and we have to find a way to pay for both wars.
Republicans want you to forget how we got into this mess, but they also want you to believe they can fix it, if they get back in power.
Dont count on it.
This President has his hands full, this he knew before he took office, so did the majority of Americans who voted for him. He was upfront during his campaign, he told the american people that the road would be hard, that it was going to get alot worse before it got better, but together, it would get to a point where the american public would be better off.
It did get alot worse like his said, but its turning around.
Today, FAUX news and the am radio nuts are talking about the US dollar.
They are trying to scare the american public with the thought of our money becoming worthless.
One problem? It was WORSE under BUSH when the dollar was at its lowest point in history. Gold also tripled under BUSH in 8 years as well as OIL getting to an unGodly price.
Gold has gone from around $935 an ounce this year to $1060, and nothing like $200 to $1000 like BUSH.
Those that talk about victory in Afghanistan know nothing about the war at all. The complexities involved are staggering. The realities of that war prevent a "victory" in the context of winning.
There is nothing to win. Without wiping out the totality of terrorists in neighboring countries, there can be no WIN.
Until then, the republicans will kick around Afghanistan like a political football.
They dont care how many troops die, or the cost it will add to the federal deficit. They just want to sound like tough guys, but so did Adolph Hitler.
AV8, I find your arguments weak and cowardly.
Just another "parrot" for FAUX news just like many others on this board.
Hard to believe the american public
some sort of rebuke in defense of the Bush Adm ?
I am fairly sure this will piss off both sides of this issue. While I have been accused of leaning too far right on Brown Cafe --I do not support sending more nor keeping our troops if Afghanistan. I cannot believe I am supporting Joe Biden , but I am sure it is for different reasons.
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