MORS HOSTIBUS
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Demographics suggests that we(US) are in a blue collar labor shortage for the foreseeable future. Great environment for unions and higher wages for less attractive work.
This is a separate real estate investment trust called prologis that produces and rents or sells the buildings.Ok. Then why are they building huge new buildings everywhere? Huge buildings....
It doesn't matter. Does it? They are there.How much these amazon independent contractor delivery people earning. The ones that bought the routes.
The ones I see have Amazon logos and trailers....This is a separate real estate investment trust called prologis that produces and rents or sells the buildings.
Lamb to the slaughter should amazon recall their warehouse space.
Unions?Demographics suggests that we(US) are in a blue collar labor shortage for the foreseeable future. Great environment for unions and higher wages for less attractive work.
Workers must like their work environment.Unions?
Unionization rate lowest on record(2022)......
I have seen several companies "go union" and fold soon thereafter. I would guess this is more the reason. IMHO.Workers must like their work environment.
Agreed. I could give a rats ass what the driver or their vehicles look like. Just get my stuff delivered in a relatively quick time frame and not damaged.Well, you should be worried. Newsflash: most folks don't care about "professional manner". MOF, they sure won't pay extra for it. BTW, have you seen a typical UPS driver lately? Up to and including facial tats........
And those TEMU products.......when you add premium cost shipping to them.......?
With all respect.......so?Per internet:
Amazon Shipping and Amazon Transportation Service (ATS) are two different but related services provided by Amazon for delivering packages to customers. They are not separate courier companies but rather logistics and delivery services operated by Amazon.
Here's a brief overview of each service:
In summary, while Amazon Shipping primarily handles Amazon's own package deliveries, Amazon Transportation Service (ATS) involves partnerships with third-party delivery service providers to handle last-mile delivery. These services are part of Amazon's broader logistics and delivery ecosystem, aimed at ensuring efficient and timely package delivery to Amazon customers.
- Amazon Shipping:Amazon Shipping is Amazon's in-house logistics service that focuses on delivering packages for select Amazon orders.it is used primarily for packages shipped by Amazon itself, not packages fulfilled by third-party sellers on the Amazon platform.Amazon Shipping may use a combination of Amazon-owned delivery vehicles, independent contractors, and local delivery partners to fulfill orders.The service is designed to complement other delivery carriers and logistics providers used by Amazon.
- Amazon Transportation Service (ATS):Amazon Transportation Service, on the other hand, is Amazon's program that allows third-party delivery service providers to partner with Amazon to deliver packages.ATS contracts with independent delivery service providers, often referred to as "Amazon Delivery Service Partners" (DSPs), to handle last-mile delivery of Amazon packages.DSPs are responsible for hiring drivers, managing delivery routes, and using their own delivery vehicles to complete Amazon deliveries.ATS enables Amazon to expand its delivery network and capacity by leveraging a network of independent delivery providers.
Amazon doesn't have a Union and can jettison that ATS unit in a hurry.With all respect.......so?
UPS and FEDX and the Postal Service have all kinds of alphabet divisions and branches and "wholly owned subsidiaries".....
This done to shelter taxes and divert and blah blah.
This is to insure maximum profits and take over the world......don't kid yourself.
Mistakes....UPS makes millions of them too!The saddest thing is that Amazon is at a position today that it can make a million mistakes and still be worth 10 times UPS in the stock market. I mean look at the market cap of amazon vs UPS. UPS had on paper record profits in 2020-22 but still according to the stock market, amazon is worth about 10 UPSes
As long as Amazon can get equity flown into it up the ass like it has been for the past 20 years (which at this point is almost a 100% guarantee), it doesnt really matter how profitable UPS is unless as a corporation we can prove that we have a means to grow significantly which I dont think is possible unless Amazon unionizes or we continue to grow those 2nd party delivery entities in India
And?Amazon doesn't have a Union and can jettison that ATS unit in a hurry.
We make a million too, but we suffer much greater blowback. Look at how badly as a company we messed up on those negotiations… all that volume lost just from loligaggingMistakes....UPS makes millions of them too!
Amazon and UPS are apples and oranges.
Friend.......we have accounts lost in 97.....that will NEVER come back!We make a million too, but we suffer much greater blowback. Look at how badly as a company we messed up on those negotiations… all that volume lost just from loligagging
Agreed, but I believe UPS is more clear on expanding to European/Asian countries to compete with rather inefficient local couriers. Look at the recent Liverpool-UPS deal. I think its pretty clear theyre trying to become a more “cool” brand outside the USUPS is not staying still. It just needs to get all non-Walmart and non-Amazon businesses.