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Bill Would Prohibt Arizona ILLEGALS from Collecting “Punitive” Damages

Bill would let rancher off hook

By Howard Fischer
PHOENIX –
The Arizona House of Representatives is considering a measure that would prohibit anyone in this country illegally from collecting punitive damages after winning a lawsuit.
Voters already approved a constitutional amendment doing precisely that in 2006 – two years too late for Cochise County rancher Roger Barnett, who was sued following a 2004 incident when 16 illegal immigrants said the rancher illegally imprisoned them. Barnett was the prime beneficiary, and motivating force, of the law.
HB 2191, the new measure, would make the ballot amendment retroactive to the start of 2004.
If it survives the legislative process – and if it is found legal – the change could save Barnett $60,000, the amount of punitive damages four of the plaintiffs were awarded two years ago. Rep. Jim Weiers, R-Phoenix, said that’s exactly what he has in mind.
 

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New Arizona Bill Would Step Up Immigration Effort


New Arizona Bill Would Step Up Immigration Effort

A new bill introduced Monday in the Arizona Senate would take new steps to combat illegal immigration.
The bill would tighten identification requirements for school enrollment and other public services, make it a crime to drive a vehicle in Arizona if in the United States unlawfully and toughen the state’s mandate that employers check the eligibility of new hires.
The bill is scheduled to be considered Tuesday by the Senate Appropriations Committee.
That committee is already scheduled to consider other legislation on illegal immigration.
Those include bills to challenge automatic citizenship for U.S.-born children of illegal immigrants and to require hospitals to confirm whether non-emergency patients are U.S. citizens or in the country legally.
 

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PHOENIX (AP) — An Arizona Senate committee late Tuesday narrowly approved a sweeping bill that would target illegal immigrants in public housing, public benefits and the workplace.
The committee earlier Tuesday also approved a bill that would deny automatic citizenship to the children of illegal immigrants in a measure designed to set up a possible U.S. Supreme Court case on the issue.
Republican state Sen. Russell Pearce, who authored Arizona’s controversial illegal immigration law last year that touched off a nationwide debate on whether states can enforce federal immigration laws, sponsored Tuesday’s more sweeping measure.
“If you’re in the country illegally, you don’t have a right to public benefits, period,” he said.
 

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PHOENIX (AP) — An Arizona Senate committee late Tuesday narrowly approved a sweeping bill that would target illegal immigrants in public housing, public benefits and the workplace.
The committee earlier Tuesday also approved a bill that would deny automatic citizenship to the children of illegal immigrants in a measure designed to set up a possible U.S. Supreme Court case on the issue.
Republican state Sen. Russell Pearce, who authored Arizona’s controversial illegal immigration law last year that touched off a nationwide debate on whether states can enforce federal immigration laws, sponsored Tuesday’s more sweeping measure.
“If you’re in the country illegally, you don’t have a right to public benefits, period,” he said.

Good job Russel Pearce!!!

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It also requires schools to collect information on the legal status of students and report them to law enforcement if their parents don't provide the necessary documents or the documents appear false.

The bill also makes it illegal for an illegal immigrant to drive in the state, providing for a 30-day minimum jail sentence and the seizure of their vehicles if they are convicted.

In housing, it requires public agencies to verify the immigration status of renters and to evict everyone living in a unit if one was found to be an illegal immigrant. For health care, the bill changes some of the document requirements for the state's Medicaid program.

The bill toughens requirements that employers check work eligibility of new hires, allowing for their business licenses to be suspended if they don't use the federal E-Verify system. Workers caught using a false identity to get a job would face mandatory six-month jail sentences.
 

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75% of ILLEGALS Use Fraudulently Obtained SSNs

Time to protect American children from illegal alien identity theft

By Ronald Mortensen

Illegal alien driven, employment-related identity theft is destroying the good names and futures of literally millions of innocent American children, while current federal identity theft law and the IRS and Social Security Administration sit on the sidelines as the number of victims continues to grow.
According to the Social Security Administration, an estimated 75 percent of illegal aliens use fraudulently obtained Social Security numbers to pay payroll taxes. In Utah, employment related identity theft accounts for 16 percent of all reported identity theft according to the Federal Trade Commission.
 

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Texas border – ID theft hot spot

Identity theft: Texas border, Brooklyn among nation’s ID theft hot spots

By Isaac Wolf,
Scripps Howard News Service
WASHINGTON —
Want to lessen your odds of becoming a victim of identity theft? Don’t move to Brownsville, Texas.
More specifically, stay out of the city’s ZIP code, 78521.
That ZIP code has the dubious distinction of generating the most identity theft complaints during the last half-decade, according to a Scripps Howard News Service analysis of more than 1.4 million reports made by consumers to the U.S. Federal Trade Commission.
Residents from that ZIP code generated 1,513 complaints — far more than the 922 complaints from the second-place ZIP code, 90044, near Inglewood, Calif.
Another nearby Brownsville ZIP code, 78520, ranks 12th nationally with 813 consumer complaints. Also high on the list are ZIP codes in Texas towns near Brownsville, including Mission, Pharr and Weslaco.
 

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Texas is looking at their own solution....YAHOO !!!!.............

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/02/23/texas-rep-wants-turn-illegal-immigrants-members-congress/


I've always thought the CA. illegals should go to Pelosi's back yard. (Little Miss Sanctuary)

I think SoCal (not LA) but the rest of it proceeding south should secede! One of our southern counties (Pima) is trying to secede because they don't like what Phoenix is doing! I say ... Good bye and don't let the door kick you in the arse.
 

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I'd say this law is destined to end up in the Supreme Court and go down in flames. Without a Constitutional ammendment I don't see how it get's around the very smple statement that all children born in the US are US citizens.
 

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I'd say this law is destined to end up in the Supreme Court and go down in flames. Without a Constitutional ammendment I don't see how it get's around the very smple statement that all children born in the US are US citizens.
In 1866, Senator Jacob Howard clearly spelled out the intent of the 14th Amendment by stating:
"Every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. It settles the great question of citizenship and removes all doubt as to what persons are or are not citizens of the United States. This has long been a great desideratum in the jurisprudence and legislation of this country."
The phrase "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" was intended to exclude American-born persons from automatic citizenship whose allegiance to the United States was not complete. With illegal aliens who are unlawfully in the United States, their native country has a claim of allegiance on the child. Thus, the completeness of their allegiance to the United States is impaired, which therefore precludes automatic citizenship.
http://www.14thamendment.us/birthright_citizenship/original_intent.html
 
In 1866, Senator Jacob Howard clearly spelled out the intent of the 14th Amendment by stating:
"Every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. It settles the great question of citizenship and removes all doubt as to what persons are or are not citizens of the United States. This has long been a great desideratum in the jurisprudence and legislation of this country."
The phrase "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" was intended to exclude American-born persons from automatic citizenship whose allegiance to the United States was not complete. With illegal aliens who are unlawfully in the United States, their native country has a claim of allegiance on the child. Thus, the completeness of their allegiance to the United States is impaired, which therefore precludes automatic citizenship.
http://www.14thamendment.us/birthright_citizenship/original_intent.html
I agree with what Sen.Jacob Howard said andd do believe that was the intent of the amendment. I just have to ask him, posthumously, why wasn't that added to the amendment in the first place. We wouldn't be in the conundrum we are now if they had.
 

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I agree with what Sen.Jacob Howard said andd do believe that was the intent of the amendment. I just have to ask him, posthumously, why wasn't that added to the amendment in the first place. We wouldn't be in the conundrum we are now if they had.

But it wasn't and now we are and with a whole lot of case-law from that point on which may indeed point in the opposite direction.
 
But it wasn't and now we are and with a whole lot of case-law from that point on which may indeed point in the opposite direction.
Has this ever made it all the way to the SCOTUS? I don't which would make more difference, a senator from that time giving an explanation on the intent or case-law from lower courts. It would be interesting to see how that would come out.
 

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Has this ever made it all the way to the SCOTUS? I don't which would make more difference, a senator from that time giving an explanation on the intent or case-law from lower courts. It would be interesting to see how that would come out.

It would be interesting. My guess is case law because just as you could find all different explanations of the intent of the Patriot Act since it's inception, it's application and subsequent court challenges shape it into what the court says it is today. Who can tell what it will be 100 years from now.
 
It would be interesting. My guess is case law because just as you could find all different explanations of the intent of the Patriot Act since it's inception, it's application and subsequent court challenges shape it into what the court says it is today. Who can tell what it will be 100 years from now.
But the patriot act isn't an amendment to the constitution. Yea, there is a difference. The intent of an amendment is important in the fact of SCOTUS' applying that intent to laws written around the amendment. There are many people that thought the P act was unconstitutional based on the intent of another part of the constitution.
Challenges to any law brought before SCOTUS more than once, I can see the court using a previous decission of SCOTUS but not that of the lower courts.
 

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Birthright Citizenship Act of 2011



END BIRTHRIGHT CITIZENSHIP: Rep. Sam Graves Co-Sponsors Bill
Rep. Sam Graves has cosponsored the Birthright Citizenship Act of 2011 introduced by Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa). The bill currently has 67 co-sponsors and amends current U.S. code to require at least one parent to be a U.S. citizen or legal permanent resident for a new born to receive automatic citizenship.
The Fourteenth Amendment extends citizenship to all persons born in the U.S. and “subject to the jurisdiction”; it also grants Congress the power to enforce and define the provisions of the amendment.
Since the Civil Rights Act of 1866, Congress has defined Birthright Citizenship through appropriate legislation, which for decades has granted citizenship to newborns with both parents illegal aliens, foreign tourists or temporary foreign workers and students. The Fourteenth Amendment gives Congress the right to define birthright citizenship differently.
The Birthright Citizenship Act of 2011 would add to the existing federal code a provision that requires at least one parent of a new born to be a U.S. citizen or legal permanent resident in order for the new born to receive automatic citizenship.
 

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Texas Farmers Under Attack at the Border



America’s Third War: Texas Farmers Under Attack at the Border

By Kris Gutiérrez

In Texas, nearly 8,200 farms and ranches back up to the Mexican border.
The men and women who live and work on those properties say they’re under attack from the same drug cartels blamed for thousands of murders in Mexico.
“It’s a war, make no mistake about it,” Texas Agriculture Commissioner Todd Staples said. “And it’s happening on American soil.”
Texas farmers and ranchers produce more cotton and more cattle than any other state, so Staples is concerned this war could eventually impact our food supply, and calls it a threat to our national security.
“Farmers and ranchers are being run off their own property by armed terrorists showing up and telling them they have to leave their land,” Staples said.
To raise awareness, Commissioner Staples launched the website ProtectYourTexasBorder.com. It’s a place where frustrated and scared farmers can share their stories.
One Texas farmer, who asked not to be identified, said it’s common for him to see undocumented immigrants walking through his property.
“I see something, I just drive away,” he said. “It is a problem, I’ve learned to live with it and pretty much, I’ve become numb to it.”
 

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Chandler beheading tied to Mexican drug cartel

by Laurie Merrill
The Arizona Republic

The man whose decapitated body was found in a Chandler apartment was killed in retaliation for stealing 400 pounds of marijuana from a Mexican drug trafficking organization, a police report reveals.

The Chandler police report also reveals that the victim believed in Santa Muerte, a Mexican saint of death, and had bragged to his companions shortly before his beheading that he had died and come back to life five times and could kill with a look.
The body of Martin Alejandro Cota Monroy, 38, commonly known as “Jando,” was found on the living room floor of 300 W. Fairview St. on Oct. 9. His head was found on the floor several feet away.
Cota Monroy ran afoul of the PEI-Estatales/El Chapo Drug Trafficking Organization when he stole a load of marijuana as well as methamphetamines from the cartel, then lied and blamed in on Border Patrol, the police report says
 

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Agents Shoot “Beanbags” — ILLEGALS Shoot AK-47s

Single shot killed border agent

Files add some clarity to Terry’s death; agents used beanbags against migrants, who replied with gunfire
Brady McCombs

Border Patrol agents shot beanbags at a group of suspected bandits before the men returned fire during a confrontation in a remote canyon, killing agent Brian Terry with a single gunshot, records show.
And an illegal immigrant wounded in the gunbattle who is now the only person in custody linked to the slaying contends he never fired a shot, according to FBI search warrant requests filed in the U.S. District Court in Tucson.
The documents provide the most detailed version yet of what happened in the deadly gunbattle Dec. 14 in Peck Canyon, northwest of Nogales.
 

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Chandler beheading tied to Mexican drug cartel

by Laurie Merrill
The Arizona Republic

The man whose decapitated body was found in a Chandler apartment was killed in retaliation for stealing 400 pounds of marijuana from a Mexican drug trafficking organization, a police report reveals.

The Chandler police report also reveals that the victim believed in Santa Muerte, a Mexican saint of death, and had bragged to his companions shortly before his beheading that he had died and come back to life five times and could kill with a look.
The body of Martin Alejandro Cota Monroy, 38, commonly known as “Jando,” was found on the living room floor of 300 W. Fairview St. on Oct. 9. His head was found on the floor several feet away.
Cota Monroy ran afoul of the PEI-Estatales/El Chapo Drug Trafficking Organization when he stole a load of marijuana as well as methamphetamines from the cartel, then lied and blamed in on Border Patrol, the police report says

No loss there...you play with fire and you get burned. :devil3:

Agents Shoot “Beanbags” — ILLEGALS Shoot AK-47s

Outgunned and outmanned...thanks Obama for sending those extra troops to our secured borders.
 
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