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Babagounj

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Los Zetas cartels takeover Texas ranches revisited

Los Zetas cartels takeover Texas ranches revisited

Eight months ago this reporter broke a story, based on reliable sources, that two Texas ranch owners were evicted from their ranches by the Mexican Zetas drug cartel. The July 24 Zeta report was finally confirmed 16 days later by a police blotter and the Texas Attorney General, after being largely dismissed as a hoax by the main-stream media.
Coincidentally, the timing of the report presented some tough obstacles for the opponents of Arizona SB1070′s court ruling due later that same week. Now, Fox News is confirming, through unnamed sources, many of these armed-conflicts are taking place on the US side of the Texas border on a regular basis.
 

bbsam

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But the patriot act isn't an amendment to the constitution. Yea, there is a difference. The intent of an amendment is important in the fact of SCOTUS' applying that intent to laws written around the amendment. There are many people that thought the P act was unconstitutional based on the intent of another part of the constitution.
Challenges to any law brought before SCOTUS more than once, I can see the court using a previous decission of SCOTUS but not that of the lower courts.
Not necessarily. Second Amendment challenges are an excellent example. What was the intent? And were all those signing onto that amendment expressing the exact same sentiment? The Supreme Court may easily decide that the Second Amendment rights were intended for the populace to protect itself from the federal government and at the same time ban the sale of weapons that would aid in that defense. In other words, the court may recognize the "intent of the framers" and decide that a previous intent is no longer supportable in the context of 21st century America.
 
Not necessarily. Second Amendment challenges are an excellent example. What was the intent? And were all those signing onto that amendment expressing the exact same sentiment? The Supreme Court may easily decide that the Second Amendment rights were intended for the populace to protect itself from the federal government and at the same time ban the sale of weapons that would aid in that defense. In other words, the court may recognize the "intent of the framers" and decide that a previous intent is no longer supportable in the context of 21st century America.
There have been many decisions made by the SC that vary from what the framers had intended, using the idea that the constitution was an ever changing document. I suppose there is argument for that, but there is little, if any substantial, evidence that the framers ever intended for that to happen. If the "supportable in the context of 21st century America" is the criteria it should be applied to ALL of the document and we both know that isn't the trend nor the original plan. There is a process that the framers supplied for changing the constitution to a newer environment and/or protect the people, however they stated pretty plain their intentions in many other ways. Using the "supportable in the context of 21st century America" argument could, would, should disallow the so called "anchor babies" of illegal immigrants because when that amendment was written they didn't know that the 21st century would bring about the numbers of people coming here just to have their babies so they could circumvent our laws.
 

bbsam

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There have been many decisions made by the SC that vary from what the framers had intended, using the idea that the constitution was an ever changing document. I suppose there is argument for that, but there is little, if any substantial, evidence that the framers ever intended for that to happen. If the "supportable in the context of 21st century America" is the criteria it should be applied to ALL of the document and we both know that isn't the trend nor the original plan. There is a process that the framers supplied for changing the constitution to a newer environment and/or protect the people, however they stated pretty plain their intentions in many other ways. Using the "supportable in the context of 21st century America" argument could, would, should disallow the so called "anchor babies" of illegal immigrants because when that amendment was written they didn't know that the 21st century would bring about the numbers of people coming here just to have their babies so they could circumvent our laws.
Your statement seems plausible, but we'd really have to read more from the time period and not take the writing of a single senator to "sum up" what was intended. He is, afterall, a politician. With politics being as messy if not more so in the past as it is today, anything is possible. And to take one writing and not even look for a dissenting opinion is akin to a statement like "According to the framers of the Constitution...." That is a phrase that tends to make me dubious about whatever comes after it because it tries to imply that they were all of one mind on an issue. Highly unlikely.
 
Your statement seems plausible, but we'd really have to read more from the time period and not take the writing of a single senator to "sum up" what was intended. He is, afterall, a politician. With politics being as messy if not more so in the past as it is today, anything is possible. And to take one writing and not even look for a dissenting opinion is akin to a statement like "According to the framers of the Constitution...." That is a phrase that tends to make me dubious about whatever comes after it because it tries to imply that they were all of one mind on an issue. Highly unlikely.
Oh I agree that simply taking one mans opinion on a matter is dangerous territory. It is pretty well known that all the founding fathers were not of like mind on all aspects of the constitution, but there were enough to get it passed. It just so happens that in this case I agree with that one senator.
My whole point was that the scotus should use the founding fathers opinions above that of lower courts.
 

Babagounj

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ILLEGALS to file 10,000 tax returns in Minnesota this year AND get tax returns!

Illegal workers to file 10,000 tax returns in Minnesota this year
For the past six years, Maria has cleaned hotel rooms in Owatonna. She uses a fake Social Security number to work. For the past five years, she has paid state and federal taxes. Last year, she earned about $10,000. She filed her taxes several weeks ago and received a $113 federal tax refund.
 

Babagounj

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Who is Suprised that All Arrested at Pei Wei Restaurants Were ILLEGALS?


Pei Wei Raid Culminates in 27 Arrests
PHOENIX –
A Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office operation on five Pei Wei Asian Diner locations has ended in the arrests of 27 employees.
27 employees were arrested for using false identification and all 27 were found to be in the country illegally.
Sheriff Arpaio had initially identified 120 employees suspected of using false identification to gain employment. Last Friday, deputies raided five locations and then followed up at last known addresses.
When looking for outstanding suspects, they realized that many of the addresses listed in their employment files were false or noticed the homes were recently abandoned.
Detectives determined there were 140 alleged victims of identity theft by Pei Wei employees. Eight were under the age of 12 and four were deceased.
The raid decimated Pei Wei’s staff and they are now hiring at all 16 valley locations.
 

Babagounj

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Chipotle workers quit ahead of immigration audits
Chipotle is a Wall Street darling, in part because its labor costs are lower than most of its peers’.
Reuters) – Workers have been leaving Chipotle Mexican Grill Inc in the nation’s capital and Virginia since getting notice that U.S. immigration officials are auditing restaurants in the area.
 

Lue C Fur

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It is good to see that we are getting some of the illegals but will our gooberment actully deport them or just tell them they must leave...kinda like Obama's aunty...who never left.
 

moreluck

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As soon as you find out that a certain restaurant is hiring illegals.....boycott it and tell your friends too. You hit them in the wallet.
 

Babagounj

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Border Patrol Admits It Fails to Apprehend 75% of All ILLEGALS Crossing Our Borders

Judicial Watch Obtains New Border Patrol Apprehension Statistics for Illegal Alien Smugglers and ‘Special Interest Aliens’

59,017 ‘Other Than Mexican’ Illegal Aliens Apprehended in 2010, including 663 ‘Aliens from Special Interest Countries’

Among the highlights from the documents, obtained by Judicial Watch pursuant to a Freedom of Information Act request originally filed on January 26, 2011:
• U.S. Border Patrol agents apprehended 463,382 individuals smuggled across the border, including 8,905 smugglers. (3,027 of the smugglers apprehended were deemed “deportable.”)
• U.S. Border Patrol agents apprehended 59,017 “Other Than Mexican” illegal aliens through October 7, 2010.
• Among the nations represented in apprehension statistics are the four countries currently on the State Department’s list of “State Sponsors of Terrorism,” Cuba (712), Iran (14), Syria (5) and Sudan (5), as well as Somalia (9), Afghanistan (9), Pakistan (37), Saudi Arabia (5) and Yemen (11).
• Overall, U.S. Border Patrol agents apprehended 663 “Aliens from Special Interest Countries.” These countries are deemed “special interest” because of their suspected ties to terrorism.
• The countries yielding the highest “Other Than Mexican” apprehensions include: Guatemala (18,406), El Salvador (13,723), and Honduras (13,580).
 

Babagounj

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No Arizona Tax Refunds for ILLEGALS w/o SSN



Arizona migrants could be denied state-tax refunds

Phoenix –
Undocumented immigrants in Arizona might be unable to receive their state tax refunds if they cannot prove that the Social Security Number that they have listed with their employers truly was issued to them.
Anthony Forschino, assistant director of External Services and Special Projects Assistant Director at the Arizona Department of Revenue, told Efe that this year it is being considered a “discrepancy” when the taxpayer identification number on the return does not coincide with the Social Security Number that appears on the W2 statement.
 

Babagounj

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S.C. Senate OKs bill to criminalize creation of fake immigration docs


S.C. Senate OKs bill to criminalize creation of fake immigration docs

From Gustavo Valdes
(CNN) —
South Carolina state senators passed a bill Thursday that would make it a crime to create fake immigration documents, not to have one’s immigration card or give a false identification.
By a 34-9 margin, the state Senate approved a third and final reading of the measure to send it to the Palmetto State’s House of Representatives. All 26 Republicans in the chamber voted for it. The nine dissenting were all Democrats, though eight legislators from that party backed the measure.
 

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Georgia Bill Makes ILLEGALS’ 1st DUI a Felony

Ga. Senate passes bill that would make 1st DUI conviction a felony for illegal immigrants

ATLANTA —
The Georgia state Senate on Thursday voted to pass a bill that would make driving under the influence of alcohol or drugs a felony for illegal immigrants.
The bill passed by a vote of 35 to 18, largely along party lines. Democrats tried unsuccessfully to table the legislation before the vote. The bill now goes to the House for consideration.
“This targets an offense by someone who is already showing a disregard for the law by being in the country illegally,” said the bill’s sponsor, state Sen. William Ligon, R-Brunswick. He added that DUI “carries particular risk to law-abiding citizens in the state.”
In Georgia, DUI is a misdemeanor on the first two convictions, a high and aggravated misdemeanor on the third conviction and a felony on the fourth and subsequent convictions. Ligon’s bill would make it felony on the first conviction for illegal immigrants only.
 

Babagounj

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Outrage! US Government Funding La Raza with Your Tax Dollars

by Mike Piccione

The United States government is funding the National Council of La Raza with our tax dollars. La Raza, which literally means in Spanish “The Race,” is a radical organization that advocates open borders and amnesty for illegal aliens. I pulled and analyzed the tax return Form 990, the form filed by 501(c) 3 organizations to the IRS, and here is what was reported:
Government Grants (contributions) to the National Council of La Raza
2008 Tax Returns, (October 1 2008 to September 30, 2009) $5,136,535
2007 Tax Returns $3,458,351
2006 Tax Returns $3,353,319
Three Year Total $11,948,205
What do people get paid at La Raza?


According to the 2008 tax returns seventeen people listed as officers, directors, trustees, key employees and highest compensated employees of the National Council of La Raza have an income ranging from $119,675 to $378,446, the latter of which goes to Janet Murguia, president and CEO.

To put that income figure in perspective a rank and file United States Senator makes $174,000.
 
Yuma, AZ March 22- The U.S. Border Patrol encounters a vehicle full of imposters in the Desert Southwest. Border Agent Michael Jimenez with the U.S. Border Patrol says, "Border Patrol Agents in the San Diego sector encountered a suspicious van with an altered U.S. Government license plate and agents determined that the van was occupied by two U.S. citizens and 13 illegal aliens, all from Mexico."
 

Babagounj

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they should all be tried as spies.
using a USMC van, altering gov't plates, all dressed in marine uniforms , what else could they be.
 

Babagounj

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“Gunwalking” scandal final straw leading to resignation of U.S. ambassador to Mexico

Posted by Sharyl Attkisson

The U.S. ambassador to Mexico, Carlos Pascual, has resigned under pressure.
In recent weeks, Mexico’s President Felipe Calderon has said in public he doesn’t trust Pascual (seen at left). Several sources close to diplomatic circles inside Mexico tell CBS News that from Mexico’s viewpoint, the ATF “gunwalking” scandal was the final straw in a series of controversies.
 
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