Arizona's anti-imigration law...

[Babagounj]

Decoding Mexico’s murder mayhem

New numbers show Mexico could be in for its bloodiest year yet.
Ioan Grillo
MEXICO CITY, Mexico — For all its mass graves, mutilations and massacres, Mexico has long claimed that it is much safer than Brazil and other Latin American counties.
But new homicide numbers suggest that might not be the case this year.
A report handed quietly to the nation’s Congress earlier this month found that in the first five months of 2011, a staggering 18,468 homicides had been reported.
It was the bloodiest period in Mexico’s recent history, with more killings than any five months since the government began compiling national homicide numbers in 1997.
As recently as 2009, President Felipe Calderon had pointed out that despite the notorious drug war, Mexico was still less murderous than Brazil with its reputation for thong-filled beaches and samba nights.
The media attention on Mexico’s violence in contrast to Brazil’s economic growth has given a skewed picture to investors, the president argued.
But many victims of crimes now say that the killings here need more rather than less attention.
“There is no security for any citizen here,” said Javier Sicilia, an anti-crime activist, whose son was murdered in March. “We have to pressure for every one of these murders to be solved. This can’t go on.”

 

[Lue C Fur]

Hey look, its the Obama adminstration now sueing Alabama for their immigration law....imagine that:

The Justice Department has filed a lawsuit against Alabama's new controversial immigration law essentially fighting Alabama on grounds similar to its legal battle with Arizona over that state's controversial law.
In both cases, the Justice Department argues that the states are overstepping their authority by wading into something that is a strictly federal responsibility: immigration enforcement.

 

[moreluck]

Now, 50 different nations want to tell us what the law should be.........WTH??

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/0...bama-immigration-law/#content?test=latestnews

 

[UPS Lifer]

One of the biggest problems we have with illegals is the fact that many do not want to assimilate into the American way of life most notably learning to speak English. There are 16 states that have English only laws. BUT I am not sure how well these states enforce the law. If the states would these examples, I am sure we would see a mass exodus to states that did not enforce English only. Examples include: Driver License and the voter ballot as well as the state education & healthcare system. You can bet that the people would either learn English and assimilate into the American culture or they would move on.

I got the info on the 16 states from the ACLU website in Florida. Obviously, that organization is against it!

Look, America is a melting pot - I get that. The problem is that illegals don't want to "melt" into the pot. But they do want to suck America dry of all the free benefits and great wages, healthcare, education and housing they can. In the meantime, they send our US Dollars back to their family in their country.

Make English a requirement for everything done in state and local government. This problem will start to go away. Unfortunately, states like California will become the refuge for these illegals because that state will never enforce an enforceble English only law.

 

[moreluck]

One of the biggest problems we have with illegals is the fact that many do not want to assimilate into the American way of life most notably learning to speak English. There are 16 states that have English only laws. BUT I am not sure how well these states enforce the law. If the states would these examples, I am sure we would see a mass exodus to states that did not enforce English only. Examples include: Driver License and the voter ballot as well as the state education & healthcare system. You can bet that the people would either learn English and assimilate into the American culture or they would move on.

I got the info on the 16 states from the ACLU website in Florida. Obviously, that organization is against it!

Look, America is a melting pot - I get that. The problem is that illegals don't want to "melt" into the pot. But they do want to suck America dry of all the free benefits and great wages, healthcare, education and housing they can. In the meantime, they send our US Dollars back to their family in their country.

Make English a requirement for everything done in state and local government. This problem will start to go away. Unfortunately, states like California will become the refuge for these illegals because that state will never enforce an enforceble English only law.

Think of the saving in paper alone. Everything I get requires 3 or 4 pieces of paper.......explanations or instructions in Spanish, chinese and 2 others I don't know. So, all English is all Green !!! Save that paper, save those trees................so all you tree huggers, you should be in favor of English only!!

 

[klein]

Think of the saving in paper alone. Everything I get requires 3 or 4 pieces of paper.......explanations or instructions in Spanish, chinese and 2 others I don't know. So, all English is all Green !!! Save that paper, save those trees................so all you tree huggers, you should be in favor of English only!!

Wouldn't you think that America would need to intruduce an official language first ? So far they have none.

 

[moreluck]

Wouldn't you think that America would need to intruduce an official language first ? So far they have none.

English is the language of freedom, commerce and opportunity around the world. Declaring English the official language of the United States will provide legal protection against ill-advised government actions which harm or ignore English. On Aug. 1, 1996, the House of Representatives voted 259-169 to declare English the official language of the United States; the Senate never acted on the bill.

 

[Babagounj]

New state policy makes registering a vehicle more difficult for immigrants

By Valarie Honeycutt Spears
A change in state policy is making it more difficult for illegal immigrants and others who don’t have a social security number to register and title a vehicle.
Starting July 12, the state stopped allowing people to use their federal Individual Tax Identification Number instead of a social security number when registering or titling a vehicle. Other documents that can still be used include a business tax ID number, a Kentucky driver’s license, an immigration visa or passports stamped with a certain status.
The Kentucky Transportation Cabinet made the change at the request of the Federal Bureau of Investigation and Kentucky State Police, said spokesman Chuck Wolfe.
“During the course of a records search by FBI and Kentucky State Police investigators, it was brought to the agency’s attention that use of the ITIN for identification purposes in registering or titling motor vehicles was not permitted by the IRS,” Wolfe said. “An ITIN is to be used solely for federal tax reporting.”

 

[Babagounj]

Editorial: More Faults Exposed In Immigrant Licenses

By Albuquerque Journal Editorial Board
The more that is known about the state’s practice of providing easy access to New Mexico driver’s licenses to illegal immigrants, the worse it looks.
In mid-July, the Motor Vehicle Division sent letters to a sampling of 10,000 of the 85,000 foreign nationals who have obtained New Mexico driver’s licenses since 2003. They were asked to make an appointment and report to an office in Albuquerque with papers verifying residency in the state.
This was done after the discovery, accompanied by several arrests, that New Mexico had become a mecca for illegal immigrants of many nationalities across the country who were paying good money for a quick trip to Albuquerque and the false documents that allowed them to get a driver’s license here. With a driver’s license come many privileges, including the ability to board an airplane.
After immigrant rights groups complained that illegal immigrants who lived south of Border Patrol checkpoints like the one outside of Truth or Consequences would be afraid to come north with their papers, an office was opened in Las Cruces. Even with that accommodation, here are the results so far:
♦ Just 1,449 appointments had been scheduled (only 36 in Las Cruces), and 828 had taken place by last week.
♦ 402 people provided acceptable documents and their licenses were certified.
♦ 80 people provided documents that appeared suspicious. The papers were sent to the state Tax Fraud Investigations Division for further examination.
So what happened to the other 8,551 letters for which there has been no response?
We do know about 2,812 of them: They were, in Elvis Presley’s words, returned to sender, address unknown.

Scrawled across envelopes were messages like:
“Not at this address. Never!”
“Please do not send mail to this address, this person has never lived here.”

 

[The Other Side]

Think of the saving in paper alone. Everything I get requires 3 or 4 pieces of paper.......explanations or instructions in Spanish, chinese and 2 others I don't know. So, all English is all Green !!! Save that paper, save those trees................so all you tree huggers, you should be in favor of English only!!

Umm , how do I say this without being punished for my words??

Moreluck, do you really understand what english only Means?.......Seriously?.... I somehow doubt you do. I get that english only is a bandwagon ideal for you, but have you thought this out thoroughly?

Lets say this country was ENGLISH only for a second. Doesnt that mean that all spanish words would have to be eliminated from our country, correct? YES ( x ) NO ( )

You want ENGLISH ONLY? OK lets give it to you.

What would be the new names for:

San Diego San Juan Capistrano El Toro El Segundo Playa Del Rey Marina Del Rey San Marcos Santa Barbara Santa Maria San luis Obispo Los Angeles San Francisco Los Alamitos San Bernadino San Gabriel San Dimas etc etc etc

What about all the streets in "our" neighborhoods?

Calle Camino Ortega Hwy Avenida Aqua Via Domingo etc etc etc

What about all the shopping centers that begin with :

Plaza ?

These are all spanish terms and NOT english. Would it not be hypocritical to speak spanish if this was an english only country?

Your entire neighborhood would have to change every street, shopping plaza, school and city name to something in ENGLISH.

I imagine your hypocrisy would take over and you would be of the opinion that it would be cool to speak spanish if it was a street, city , school, hwy or county.

Ill let you give us your opinion.

Peace.

 

[moreluck]

Your so full of it, you squirt!! Your first assumption ALWAYS in response to me is that I don't know what something is. I don't owe you or any other person an explanation of my knowledge of something. So, keep your explanation for your dim witted friends.

Your explanation as usual, takes things way too far...........like with English only I'll never be able to eat a taco.....bull ! Beans belong to everybody!! So extreme and so over the top, you go to the ridiculous immediately.

 

[The Other Side]

Your so full of it, you squirt!! Your first assumption ALWAYS in response to me is that I don't know what something is. I don't owe you or any other person an explanation of my knowledge of something. So, keep your explanation for your dim witted friends.

Your explanation as usual, takes things way too far...........like with English only I'll never be able to eat a taco.....bull ! Beans belong to everybody!! So extreme and so over the top, you go to the ridiculous immediately.

OOOH,

look out folks, she got caught in her own hypocrisy!! WOOHOO!!

English only is impossible given the fact that a majority of this country is spanish or has spanish origins. Only an imbecile would believe otherwise. Unless you are prepared to rename Cities, Counties, States, Streets, Communities, Businesses and the like into english, then you will be speaking SPANISH.

DUH.

A taco is spanish, english only? Better find another word for taco. Better find a new name for your city. Better find new words for all the streets in your retirement community.

Those are all in spanish.

English only is a dumb concept that can never be implemented. It creates hypocrites. You know the ones, eh.

I take it too far? Seriously? I am not the one claiming english only is the way to go! English only is a foolish venture. You want people to speak "our" language, then you have to change everything.

Like I said, you didnt think this one out. You believe, it only has to do with paper. Somehow, the strainer of info in your brain filters too thinly and keeps out the larger particles of facts.

People that dont want spanish in this country have to be 100% behind the idea. 100% means changing everything or theyll become hypocrites.

Spanish is spanish moreluck, and there are no exceptions. If there were, then it cant be ENGLISH ONLY.

DUH.

Peace.

 

[wkmac]

If they decided to have an "English Only" country, in my neck of the woods here in the south, we'd have to go out and learn a whole new language!
Git-Er-Dun!

 

[moreluck]

".............A taco is spanish......." (TOS)

There's no language when making a taco. It's food, not a language. You don't speak Spanish to make a taco, you brown the ground beef. I'm not into anthropomorphism....or personification. Tacos, take time though they are tasty.....but I am into alliteration!

 

[The Other Side]

".............A taco is spanish......." (TOS)

There's no language when making a taco. It's food, not a language. You don't speak Spanish to make a taco, you brown the ground beef. I'm not into anthropomorphism....or personification. Tacos, take time though they are tasty.....but I am into alliteration!

I like how you avoid the bigger issue of being "pinned" down on cities, streets, counties, states, hwy's and the like. How do you propose they all be transformed into english only?

OOOh, ima love this one.

Peace.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

The only Spanish influence in my neck of the woods are the "los reclusos" in our local jails.

 

[moreluck]

You don't re-name things.......just talk English. Give it up!

If you want Spanish, go live in Mexico or Spain
If you want French, go live in France or Canada
If you want German, go live in Germany
etc.

 

[moreluck]

I like how you avoid the bigger issue of being "pinned" down on cities, streets, counties, states, hwy's and the like. How do you propose they all be transformed into english only?

OOOh, ima love this one.

Peace.

You don't transform them....you just TALK the English language. Los Angeles will still be El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora la Reina de los Ángeles del Río de Porciúncula (The Town of Our Lady the Queen of the Angels of the Porciúncula River OR L.A. for short.

The streets in my neighborhood will still start with Corte, Calle, Avenida, etc. You, right away are anxious to wipe away history...that's really dumb. Of course, Obama would probably appoint a council of 69 to re-write all the street names to cater to people like you.
You get so "yahoo" over the stupidist stuff.

I think English only would be "from this point on".......as in speak it.

 

[The Other Side]

You don't transform them....you just TALK the English language. Los Angeles will still be El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora la Reina de los Ángeles del Río de Porciúncula (The Town of Our Lady the Queen of the Angels of the Porciúncula River OR L.A. for short.

The streets in my neighborhood will still start with Corte, Calle, Avenida, etc. You, right away are anxious to wipe away history...that's really dumb. Of course, Obama would probably appoint a council of 69 to re-write all the street names to cater to people like you.
You get so "yahoo" over the stupidist stuff.

I think English only would be "from this point on".......as in speak it.

This is exactly why the English only concept is dumb. People still want to use spanish in everyday use but dont want it on ballots.

You can write spanish words on your envelopes with your return address, but please dont put spanish words on a ballot!

OMG.

Peace.

 

[moreluck]

This is exactly why the English only concept is dumb. People still want to use spanish in everyday use but dont want it on ballots.

You can write spanish words on your envelopes with your return address, but please dont put spanish words on a ballot!

OMG.

Peace.

The key IS....they don't want to SPEAK IT. Don't Want to SPEAK IT !!!!!!