Arizona's anti-imigration law...

[moreluck]

....." I sure wouldn't want to pay for illegal immigrants going to our schools........."(Klein)

Then why do you put down Republicans.......It's the Dems. who want to welcome and take care of, educate and feed & clothe every illegal that wanders this way.....and you keep siding with them. I think you are totally confused where you stand....at least on our politics.

I don't want to pay for any services for illegals.........hello! Illegal means "broke the law"........I'm not your keeper, go back to your country.

 

[Lue C Fur]

It's the Dems. who want to welcome and take care of, educate and feed & clothe every illegal that wanders this way.....and you keep siding with them. I think you are totally confused where you stand....at least on our politics.

Get them hooked on the govt teet and then get them to become citizens...future democratic voters.

 

[klein]

....." I sure wouldn't want to pay for illegal immigrants going to our schools........."(Klein)

Then why do you put down Republicans.......It's the Dems. who want to welcome and take care of, educate and feed & clothe every illegal that wanders this way.....and you keep siding with them. I think you are totally confused where you stand....at least on our politics.

I don't want to pay for any services for illegals.........hello! Illegal means "broke the law"........I'm not your keeper, go back to your country.

I side bothways, but many of them with your libs.
You can't honestly say you agree to keep the tax cuts for the rich, while the debt grows larger, can you ?
And, I also don't agree with the most expensive healthcare on the planet, that doesn't even cover all their citizens, but costs atleast twice as much as anywhere else,
20% of GDP or more , and growing !
And guns.... hmmm, don't even want to go there.

 

[moreluck]

I side bothways, but many of them with your libs.
You can't honestly say you agree to keep the tax cuts for the rich, while the debt grows larger, can you ?
And, I also don't agree with the most expensive healthcare on the planet, that doesn't even cover all their citizens, but costs atleast twice as much as anywhere else,
20% of GDP or more , and growing !
And guns.... hmmm, don't even want to go there.

Yes I can, because the rich will spend the money and do the hiring to get us moving again. We don't have a revenue problem (we take in plenty), we have a spending problem. We spend too much thanks to Obama.
We will never agree on the guns.
I think we need reform of health care, but Obama's plan is way too costly and people can't be forced to buy something!!

 

[moreluck]

Remember the guy with the chart?
He took away the complete salaries of the wage earners over $250,000.....that's 100% tax!! Left them no money at all to live on (yeah, real fair)
That still wasn't enough, so taxing more isn't the answer.

 

[klein]

I suppose they can move up retirement age and social bennies up to age 75, but it will create higher unemployment.

 

[klein]

Yes I can, because the rich will spend the money and do the hiring to get us moving again. We don't have a revenue problem (we take in plenty), we have a spending problem. We spend too much thanks to Obama.
We will never agree on the guns.
I think we need reform of health care, but Obama's plan is way too costly and people can't be forced to buy something!!

The squeezing out of the middle class has major implications for our collective prosperity. Middle-class incomes drive economic growth, pay for public services, support healthy families, and build communities. Society cannot subsist on crumbs left over by the rich. Workers cannot accept the logic that relentless cuts and constant sacrifice will bring better days ahead.

 

[moreluck]

The squeezing out of the middle class has major implications for our collective prosperity. Middle-class incomes drive economic growth, pay for public services, support healthy families, and build communities. Society cannot subsist on crumbs left over by the rich. Workers cannot accept the logic that relentless cuts and constant sacrifice will bring better days ahead.

OK, the link is about Canada's middle class......totally different. How is any of this about AZ. immigration?

 

[klein]

I simply replied to your posting, that you are for the tax cuts for the rich.

And, you'll wait like Linus for the GREAT PUMPKIN, for those little crumbs from the rich to trinkle down !

It's only been 10 years or more....keep waiting !

 

[moreluck]

but I am the rich !!

 

[packageguy]

I suppose they can move up retirement age and social bennies up to age 75, but it will create higher unemployment.

Why would you want to say something like raise the retirement age? I don't want to work, and than die the day I retire. We have to enjoy life at one point.

 

[klein]

Why would you want to say something like raise the retirement age? I don't want to work, and than die the day I retire. We have to enjoy life at one point.

Well, because people like Moreluck think cutting spending will fix it.
I, on the other hand, think putting more money (more taxes) towards those programs will save it.
Just like NYupstate did with the UPS pension vote.

The choice is yours !

 

[packageguy]

Well, because people like Moreluck think cutting spending will fix it.
I, on the other hand, think putting more money (more taxes) towards those programs will save it.
Just like NYupstate did with the UPS pension vote.

The choice is yours !

I've been saying this from the first day, we must take care of our brothers and sisters that are in retirement. I know people don't want to hear it but, I would not take the raise ----- and put money for pension fund, but thats just me.

 

[wkmac]

Massachusetts GOP state Rep. Ryan Fattman has such contempt for illegal immigrants that he believes undocumented women who are raped should be afraid to go to the police. Yesterday, the Worcester Telegram & Gazette reported on Fattman’s incendiary comments, which he made while defending a controversial federal immigration program that many say will damage the relationship between law enforcement and immigrant communities. Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick (D) has refused to join the program out of concern that immigrants who are victims of violent crimes will be afraid to report them and seek help:

Mr. Fattman dismissed concerns of some law enforcement officials — cited by the governor — who said using local police to enforce immigration laws could discourage reporting of crime by victims who are illegal immigrants.
Asked if he would be concerned that a woman without legal immigration status was raped and beaten as she walked down the street might be afraid to report the crime to police, Mr. Fattman said he was not worried about those implications.
“My thought is that if someone is here illegally, they should be afraid to come forward,” Mr. Fattman said. “If you do it the right way, you don’t have to be concerned about these things,” he said referring to obtaining legal immigration status.
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source

 

[Babagounj]

Mr. Fattman acknowledged that people could be deported after an arrest even if they are not convicted of a crime, under the program in use in more than 30 states.
While citizens have the right to be viewed as innocent until found guilty in court, he said, “I don’t think that principle extends to illegal immigrants.” He said he had no concerns about racial profiling by police.
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/06/09/240597/massachusetts-gop-immigrant-rape/#comment_link
I like this guy.

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[Babagounj]

[h=1]Narco gangster reveals the underworld[/h] [h=2]Cartels have taken cruelty up a notch, says one drug trafficker: kidnapping bus passengers for gladiatorlike fights to the death[/h]

Read more: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/topstory/7607122.html#ixzz1PDrDiZvM
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[Babagounj]

[h=3]Mapping the Dead from Mexico's Drug War[/h]

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This website tracks and maps the narco-related killings in Mexico, which now exceed 40,000 since the start of the Mexican drug war in December 2006. The map above (click to enlarge) shows the deaths in Mexico over just one 6-1/2 month period from May 15, 2010 to December 2010. Death maps for other periods are available at the website. Here's the map legend:


The RED balloons are civilians. The RED balloons with a dot are politicians, and other high profile killings. The BLUE balloons are police officers and soldiers (and other law enforcement officials). The BLUE balloons with a dot are high ranking officers. The YELLOW suns represent car bombs and the 2 GREEN people represent mass graves.

http://mjperry.blogspot.com/2011/06/mapping-dead-from-mexicos-drug-war.html

 

[The Other Side]

Mapping the Dead from Mexico's Drug War

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This website tracks and maps the narco-related killings in Mexico, which now exceed 40,000 since the start of the Mexican drug war in December 2006. The map above (click to enlarge) shows the deaths in Mexico over just one 6-1/2 month period from May 15, 2010 to December 2010. Death maps for other periods are available at the website. Here's the map legend:

The RED balloons are civilians. The RED balloons with a dot are politicians, and other high profile killings. The BLUE balloons are police officers and soldiers (and other law enforcement officials). The BLUE balloons with a dot are high ranking officers. The YELLOW suns represent car bombs and the 2 GREEN people represent mass graves.

http://mjperry.blogspot.com/2011/06/mapping-dead-from-mexicos-drug-war.html

I can solve the drug war without firing a single shot or having to buy weapons.

STOP OUR COUNTRIES CITIZENS FROM USING DRUGS.

Peace.

 

[moreluck]

Wow, that reminds me of Mexican Zillow !!

 

[moreluck]

I can solve the drug war without firing a single shot or having to buy weapons.

STOP OUR COUNTRIES CITIZENS FROM USING DRUGS.

Peace.

I thought you wanted marijuana legalized!!