Arizona's anti-imigration law...

[Babagounj]

‘Day Without Mexicans’ planned
By Miguel Timoshenkov
Laredo Morning Times
As a protest against Arizona’s controversial immigration law, the chambers of commerce from Nuevo Laredo to Matamoros have agreed to set May 25 as a “Day Without Mexicans” on the South Texas border.
Business leaders are calling on all Mexican nationals to avoid crossing the international bridges into the United States for any reason, but particularly for shopping, on that day.
“Our action will be united and preventive,” said Emilio Girón Fernández de Jáuregui, president of the Nuevo Laredo Chamber of Commerce.

As have many Mexican officials, Girón Fernández de Jáuregui criticized Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer for criminalizing the lack of documents when “historically, Mexican nationals have left their money in border cities.”
He added that business owners and merchants traditionally have rejected and protested measures that violate human rights. Contrary to earlier reports, there are no plans to block the international bridges as part of the May 25 protest, Girón Fernández de Jáuregui said.
The decision to ask Mexican citizens to avoid traveling to the United States on May 25 was the result of a conference called by the national Chambers of Commerce earlier this week. Chamber officials from each of the cities along the Texas-Mexico border agreed to the plan and will develop their own ways of calling for the boycott.
“It will be a grand moment of solidarity among border Mexicans,” Girón Fernández de Jáuregui said.
Some Texas civic leaders were concerned about the protest, saying that it wasn’t fair to penalize Texas businesses for something that Arizona had done. Several Texas leaders, including Gov. Rick Perry, have said Texas would not follow Arizona’s lead.
“It’s true that Texas hasn’t adopted such a measure, but we’ve already heard that some legislators are considering carrying a bill that would make criminals out of those without documents,” Girón Fernández de Jáuregui said.
The chamber leader emphasized that Mexican workers in the United States are good people who help strengthen the U.S. economy and have helped it grow.
“Our interest is to defend the honor of each Mexican, with or without papers, in the United States,” Girón Fernández de Jáuregui said.


Hey, this is a great idea.
Less officers will be needed at border crossings, so more can be used out in the back country catching the fence jumpers.

 

[dilligaf]

‘Day Without Mexicans’ planned
By Miguel Timoshenkov
Laredo Morning Times
As a protest against Arizona’s controversial immigration law, the chambers of commerce from Nuevo Laredo to Matamoros have agreed to set May 25 as a “Day Without Mexicans” on the South Texas border.
Business leaders are calling on all Mexican nationals to avoid crossing the international bridges into the United States for any reason, but particularly for shopping, on that day.
“Our action will be united and preventive,” said Emilio Girón Fernández de Jáuregui, president of the Nuevo Laredo Chamber of Commerce.

As have many Mexican officials, Girón Fernández de Jáuregui criticized Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer for criminalizing the lack of documents when “historically, Mexican nationals have left their money in border cities.”
He added that business owners and merchants traditionally have rejected and protested measures that violate human rights. Contrary to earlier reports, there are no plans to block the international bridges as part of the May 25 protest, Girón Fernández de Jáuregui said.
The decision to ask Mexican citizens to avoid traveling to the United States on May 25 was the result of a conference called by the national Chambers of Commerce earlier this week. Chamber officials from each of the cities along the Texas-Mexico border agreed to the plan and will develop their own ways of calling for the boycott.
“It will be a grand moment of solidarity among border Mexicans,” Girón Fernández de Jáuregui said.
Some Texas civic leaders were concerned about the protest, saying that it wasn’t fair to penalize Texas businesses for something that Arizona had done. Several Texas leaders, including Gov. Rick Perry, have said Texas would not follow Arizona’s lead.
“It’s true that Texas hasn’t adopted such a measure, but we’ve already heard that some legislators are considering carrying a bill that would make criminals out of those without documents,” Girón Fernández de Jáuregui said.
The chamber leader emphasized that Mexican workers in the United States are good people who help strengthen the U.S. economy and have helped it grow.
“Our interest is to defend the honor of each Mexican, with or without papers, in the United States,” Girón Fernández de Jáuregui said.


Hey, this is a great idea.
Less officers will be needed at border crossings, so more can be used out in the back country catching the fence jumpers.

Maybe we will get lucky and it will carry over to the other 364 days of the year.

Their one day won't happen though. They will never get a united front out of the Mexicans.

 

[moreluck]

Lock 'em out on that day !!

 

[UPS Lifer]

Arizona could secede from the country, Mexico could invade and then Mexico would have the "illegal" problem. You white people would be very easy to profile. Hablas Espanol?

I like the way you said "you white people". That pretty well defines your stand! AND from what I have seen, read and heard, there are many more like you. I don't think anyone here is trying to oppress any person of color. If they are I won't stand with them.

I lived and worked 55 years in the racial mixing pot of the country... Southern California! Some of my closest friends are Americans with Mexican heritage. This isn't about Mexicans.... it is about people who are here illegally, sponging off our tax dollars, putting a burden on our schools and healthcare, and housing. Sending US dollars back to their homeland (where ever that is). It is about our safety, the safety of our children and grandchildren. It is about citizens and legal residents quality of life. It is about keeping human traffickers and drug smugglers out of our border states. When a state has no money and has to lay off teachers or raise our taxes, shut down public pools and state parks etc. etc. etc. because there is no money, citizens and legal residents what we quality of life we could get back if we didn't have to deal with illegals and the criminal element.

So now we know your motivation and exactly where you stand and why. thank you for being truthful about your position. I won't call you what you are. I will let those who can read your post make that determination for themselves. What a shame that you cannot see beyond the color of your skin.

 

[Just Numbers]

Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr., who has been critical of Arizona's new immigration law, said Thursday he hasn't yet read the law and is going by what he's read in newspapers or seen on television.

Can you believe that! The Attorney General Of the United States of America condemns a law that he has not even read. I thought the response from the congressman was classic, something to the tune of "it's only 10 pages long, not like the 2800 page health bill, take my copy and read it, I have another" Throw all the bums out in 2010 and 2012. Our country couldn't any worse.

 

[dilligaf]

From a recent The Tonight Show: Jay Leno

Arizona has recently passed the toughest immigration law in history. The idea behind it is to drive illegal immigrants out of Arizona and back to their homeland of Los Angeles. Ironically, after they passed this new law, you know how they celebrated at the statehouse? Shots of tequila.

Nothing wrong with imports. I personally like Patron Anejo. It's a good thing its not cheap.

 

[klein]

And back to Mexico I go $670 all inclusive, with flight and all taxes for the week. Just couldn't refuse that offer. All I can drink and eat, again.

 

[ups1990]

Maybe we will get lucky and it will carry over to the other 364 days of the year.

Their one day won't happen though. They will never get a united front out of the Mexicans.

As opposed to Americans who are united in all fronts. Let's be careful in what we're asking for. Arizonan's might get their wish and curtail illegals living in that state. The ramifications of this law might not be seen and felt for years to come. Young Latinos will remember this passage of law and will in the future be a large percentage of the voting bloc and peoples worst fear will come to reality. These voters will put into office their elected officials and the tables will be turned. We may not see this change until our later years but our children, the children of Arizonans will see it and feel it.

 

[UPS Lifer]

And back to Mexico I go $670 all inclusive, with flight and all taxes for the week. Just couldn't refuse that offer. All I can drink and eat, again.

Hey Klein, you don't have to go that far to see Mexico. Just fly into Tuscon - for less than $299 you will see all the Mexicans you want. I will even line up a couple of tours for you. One is a trip to the brush where you can hide out on a super highway and watch illegals come over 10 by 10! If you are lucky you will get a free trip to a drop house in Phoenix! All room and board included for 2 weeks. It won't cost you a dime. Won't that be fun? Just let me know the day you want to leave so I can have Sheriff Joe provide an escort for you. You certainly can't beat that for $299.

 

[moreluck]

Don't you ever work??

 

[klein]

Don't you ever work??

Funny lifer ! I love good humour !
More, I haven't finished my research on Mexicans yet. Why they are so disliked by most southern states.
So, this time, I'll be more in town, to get to know the average mexican.

Sofar, doing my internet research... couldn't find a nudy bar tour, or even a nudy beach

But, thats ok. I'll find a mexican nudy bar, yet...LOL

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Don't you ever work??

I think Lifer is retired.




Oh, you mean our Canadian fountain of misinformation...

 

[moreluck]

I hope a bullet proof vest is among the things you pack. You go to town and you'll be a target, Gringo!!

 

[tonyexpress]

I think Lifer is retired.




Oh, you mean our Canadian fountain of misinformation...

That was a good one!!

 

[pickup]

Don't you ever work??

I can't help but think of this subset of lyrics from a song in Westside Story:

ACTION (to "Social Worker"):
Dear kindly social worker.
They say go earn a buck,
Like be a soda jerker,
Which means like be a schmuck.
It's not I'm anti-social,
I'm only anti-work,
Glory Osky, that's why I'm a jerk!

BABY JONN (imitating female social worker):
Eek!
Officer Krupke, you've done it again.
This boy don't need a job, he needs a year in the pen.
It ain't just a question of misunderstood;
Deep down inside him, he's no good!

ACTION:
I'm no good!

ALL:
We're no good, we're no good,
We're no earthly good,
Like the best of us is no damn good!

DIESEL ("Judge"):
The trouble is he's crazy!

A-RAB ("Psychiatrist"):
The trouble is he drinks!

BABY JOHN ("Social Worker"):
The trouble is he's lazy!

DIESEL ("Judge"):
The trouble is he stinks!

A-RAB ("Psychiatrist"):
The trouble is he's growing!

BABY JOHN ("Social Worker"):
The trouble is he's grown!

 

[dilligaf]

As opposed to Americans who are united in all fronts. Let's be careful in what we're asking for. Arizonan's might get their wish and curtail illegals living in that state. The ramifications of this law might not be seen and felt for years to come. Young Latinos will remember this passage of law and will in the future be a large percentage of the voting bloc and peoples worst fear will come to reality. These voters will put into office their elected officials and the tables will be turned. We may not see this change until our later years but our children, the children of Arizonans will see it and feel it.

I never claimed that all Americans have a united front. Obviously we don't or we wouldn't be having this debate. Instead, everyone would understand that illegal immigration hurts every single American in this country. Notice I did not say 'white' or 'black' or 'brown'. I said every American, whether a legal immigrant or born in this country. Don't tell me to be careful in what I ask for. All I am asking for is something to be done about serious issues that we border states are facing right now. Murder, drive by shootings, rape, human trafficking, drug smuggling are getting worse every day. And that is the short list. Add burglary, assault, auto theft and numerous other criminal activities.

Don't you tell me to be careful what I ask for. If you had a lick of common sense you would realize that what is going on here is not to far from being on your front door step, you'd be screaming for help too.

 

[moreluck]

pickup....you're officially old !!

 

[trplnkl]

If you pull someone over with a broken tail light and they don't have a license, that's already an issue and they're already in trouble. Nobody needs a new law for that. Police are already empowered to check ID's and confirm someone's identification if they believe that person has violated some other law or in the course of an investigation. The problem with the Arizona's new law, as originally written was that it ostensibly did away with any prerequisite. Police could potentially just stop people and check their ID's not because they observed them doing anything wrong but just because they "looked suspicious" without defining "looked suspicious" actually meant. That's way too vague and the potential for abuse is pretty obvious.

It makes no difference what " Arizona's new law, as originally written " did or didn't say, now does it? The fact is the law AS IS , eliminates your objection. I'm not too sure the original law did what you are claiming anyway, I didn't read what was taken out because.....well, it was taken out.

 

[trplnkl]

arizona could secede from the country, mexico could invade and then mexico would have the "illegal" problem. You white people would be very easy to profile. Hablas espanol?

viva la raza??????

Is this your hero?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGqPo5ofk0s&NR=1

 

[Jones]

It makes no difference what " Arizona's new law, as originally written " did or didn't say, now does it? The fact is the law AS IS , eliminates your objection. I'm not too sure the original law did what you are claiming anyway, I didn't read what was taken out because.....well, it was taken out.

You quoted my post, and then sort of repeated what I said. I'm not sure what you're getting at. I think they did the right thing with the follow on bill, at this point I'm comfortable letting the courts rule on it which will happen when and if someone challenges it.