Arizona's anti-imigration law...

KingofBrown

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Here's the original post from Diesel.

Part of the 5 seeing habits is to "Get the big picture"....so while my Mexican hating, anti-spanish, right winger friends here post their little trivial l'il stories, links and pictures, the losers, (when this Bill is successfullyl challenged), are obvious. If parts of the Arizona law are invalidated, Gov Brew-ha-ha and the state legislators who voted in favor of the bill will likely have made not only a legal blunder, but a political one. As it doesn't take a rocket scientist, that the future electoral success of the Republican Party depends in part on its ability to capture a significant percentage of the country's fastest growing population, "Hispanic" . So the delicate dance for Republicans is to satisfy the "no amnesty" wing of their base without offending Hispanics .... a mission that does not seem of great concern to Brewer, who faces a Republican primary in August. She might get across the finish line this summer and again in the fall, but in signing an unconstitutional law that seems to regaurd Hispanics as presumptively criminal, it's unlikely that she did her party any long-term favors.


Here's yours Texan.

Part of the 5 seeing habits is to "Get the big picture"....so while my Mexican hating, anti-spanish, right winger friends here post their little trivial l'il stories, links and ******* pictures,

Now, lest play some scrubble with these letters: kcwteba

I know, I know, you'd say that's not racism, it's nationalism...
 

KingofBrown

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I don't know Texan, why would I get an e-mail, either?

They should matter, Texan, they should matter.

I live in Texas, why would I be getting email from an Az State Senator? I've only been to AZ twice. I knew the law was written by Az St Senators, but I didn't know their names. Frankly, their names didn't matter to me.
 
Ooooooooooouh. What did you add to that post, so Hoaxster had to edit it, Texan? Those were not your words, Cowboy, it was only one.
Hoaxter edited Diesel's post not mine...I couldn't have added anything to it or changed it. You are right, when I quoted Diesel's post I did edit the word with *******, because I didn't really want to post that word, even in a quote. I suppose I should have pointed out that I replaced the word with ******* and told why. Regardless, it was YOUR BUDDY that said ******, not me.

In the post you just quoted, I said "words"(plural) instead of "word"(singular), because you said...(and I quote you)...
It’d be interesting if you would accept that you were the one that started with the “dampbacks” or “wetguys” (two words=plural)or whatever word.
So it would be nice if YOU would acknowledge that you were wrong in saying I started with the racial slurs. I will accept your apology.
 

KingofBrown

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Come one Texan, you weren't the one who placed the stars. You sound like a preacher. Your post got banned by the moderators, not by you placing the stars.

Hoaxter edited Diesel's post not mine...I couldn't have added anything to it or changed it. You are right, when I quoted Diesel's post I did edit the word with *******, because I didn't really want to post that word, even in a quote. I suppose I should have pointed out that I replaced the word with ******* and told why. Regardless, it was YOUR BUDDY that said ******, not me.

In the post you just quoted, I said "words"(plural) instead of "word"(singular), because you said...(and I quote you)...
So it would be nice if YOU would acknowledge that you were wrong in saying I started with the racial slurs. I will accept your apology.
 
Come one Texan, you weren't the one who placed the stars. You sound like a preacher. Your post got banned by the moderators, not by you placing the stars.
Posts don't get banned, posters do. Threads get closed/locked(can't reply to them)or deleted.
Posts get deleted or edited by moderators. When a mod edits a post, it shows at the bottom of the post, i.e. Last edited by Hoaxster; 05-19-2010 at 04:31 PM. If you look at Deisel's post #470 and brett636's #471, you will see the same message from Hoax because he edited both posts, ask him if you don't believe me.
The Mods did not touch any of my posts. Go on, ask them about that too.

religion has nothing to do with this thread or even my views.

So do you want to continue to debate the law vs. Constitution or do you just want to make slurs and SA remarks? I just wanna know which one you want to do.
 
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KingofBrown

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Go ahead Cowboy. I want to know your further view of this Racist- Nationalist stuff. And the rest of my post.

Posts don't get banned, posters do. Threads get closed/locked(can't reply to them)or deleted.
Posts get deleted or edited by moderators. When a mod edits a post, it shows at the bottom of the post, i.e. Last edited by Hoaxster; 05-19-2010 at 04:31 PM. If you look at Deisel's post #470 and brett636's #471, you will see the same message from Hoax because he edited both posts, ask him if you don't believe me.
The Mods did not touch any of my posts. Go on, ask them about that too.

religion has nothing to do with this thread or even my views.

So do you want to continue to debate the law vs. Constitution or do you just want to make slurs and SA remarks? I just wanna know which one you want to do.
 
You really have issues Cowboy. Please define to me the word Discrimination. Then, I think you’d be able to talk. You know how that statement about “discrimination against illegals from Mexico is not racism” started. It’d be interesting if you would accept that you were the one that started with the “dampbacks” or “wetguys” or whatever word. Look for the ******** those little stars are the word, and you hid it in a reply, on page 32, you didn’t get away with that one Texan. They banned it from the thread. It’s not about typing slowly, it’s about typing rationally. If you type slowly, we won’t be able to see that, come on…:wink2: I know the difference between Race and National Origin, but I don’t use that as an excuse to not categorize any prejudice towards an Ethnicity. As if illegals don’t have any race… That’s your logic. You haven’t mentioned religion Cowboy, you just gave an irrational statement about discrimination. And I won’t tell you more about that because you won’t be able to see the absurdity of your definition about discrimination. I don’t care what are your religious beliefs, your favorite food, your sexual preferences, or whatever about your personal life. So don’t make a big deal out of one word.
You must have put the word religion in for a reason, whatever. LOL, and making a big deal out of one word seems to be you specialty. Here's one word that describes you, hypocrite. anyway, back on topic.
No excuse, just my use of the words race and national origin in this thread, or anytime I use them. If this doesn't fit you use of them, sorry.
Race:
(for definition purposes; people belonging to a specific ethnicity such as : Hispanic :of, relating to, or being a person of Latin American descent living in the United States ; especially : one of Cuban, Mexican, or Puerto Rican origin).
Nationality: citizens of a given country or nation. This includes people of any ethnicity living or coming from a given country or nation.
Mexico, just as the US, has people of all races(ethnicity), they are either Mexican citizens or US citizens.There are white Mexicans, black Mexicans, Mexicans of German decent, none of which are Hispanic.
Is't pretty simple, prejudice toward anyone because of their ethnicity is wrong. However, SB1070 addresses illegal immigrants of ANY nationality that does not have the proper papers to be in the US, just the same as US law does, regardless of the individuals ethnicity. This is what I have been saying all along.

Sorry, not racist. Nationalist, yes...racist nope.
There are many Americans that are of Mexican decent, if these people are discriminated against for the reason of that ancestry then that is racism(2nd) Discrimination against illegals from Mexico is not racism(3rd)
Texan, I don‘t know if you can read, and if you know the definition of “Discrimination.“ What do you mean by discrimination against illegals from Mexico? I’m reading between the sentences.
That's your problem, you read things that are not there. Just read the words, all of them. There is nothing between the sentences except blank background.
When you put a period you let one idea concluded, and the next sentence goes along with the past one. You know that, don’t you?
Oh, now this is cherry, lol. YOU are lecturing ME on sentence and paragraph structure? what a huge laugh.
If these people (Illegals from Mexico) are discriminated because of their ancestry or Ethnicity that is racism too, Cowboy.
That's what I have been saying, DippyDoDawg. Look, I am not saying it is OK to discriminate against anyone, just showing that there is a difference between Mexicans (from Mexico) and Hispanics(from all over the globe)
That’s where illegals immigrants rights come to the scene. Your third sentence would be right if it was to be written as the second.
Wrong again DDD, My third sentence is fine as I typed it. Discrimination against illegals from Mexico is not racism, it is based on where they are from not their ethnicity. I didn't say it was OK, just that it was not racism.
Please don’t use Nationalism as a means to mask racism, it’s not logical.
What is illogical is to think they are the same.
There are black, white, Caucasian, and the mostly suspicious brownies, all of them Hispanics or Mexican illegals.
They can be Hispanics, yea.
You left a few out though, there are also black, white, Caucasian and darker skinned people that are from Mexico but are NOT Hispanic.
People from these groups can be illegal immigrants as well. SB1070 includes those people.
And remember is not only about Latinos or Hispanics, as bbsam stated to you. Enforcing immigration laws is not discrimination Depends on how you enforce them, and that‘s the main point we all haven‘t been able to get through because of all these big deals you make.
Ahhhh, we may be getting somewhere, but maybe not. Does it depend on "how" the law is enforced or what the law says? The answer to this question is pivotal.
Put you race card back in your pocket, you will want it again. and again and again.
 
Ya see, that is why I won’t be next. I carry my DL (government photo ID) with me, everywhere I go. And here is a news flash for you, it’s NOTHING new. This has been the norm since way before you were born and the burden of proof is always going to be around. Nice try DippyDoDawg, that is NOT what I was guessing about. If you don’t know that you do need help. I was “guessing” on the reason for removing the word “solely” from the text of the law because they new idiots would try the twist that to construe profiling was to be condoned.



You totally can’t see beyond your little circle.
What little circle are you talking about?
Give more power to police. I hope it never gets to the point where these type of laws will be the reason that’ll make open your eyes. No one would try to twist nothing, the law itself is very explanatory of its prejudice, that‘s why they made all the changes, because they got afraid.
Here ya go gain, making crap up. Is the law prejudiced NOW(if so, what part?), or was it just before they changed it?
Even the attorneys recommended Ms. Brewer not to sign it.
What attorney's? Source please.
If it means what I think it does, you are unwilling to accept any point of view than you own? If that is the case, why am I wasting my time?
What does it mean, Cowboy? And yes, no irrational points of view. I won’t never understand how in the world people from other nations don’t have a race. And don’t say I’m the irrational one, I’m just repeating your perspective.
Actually you are misreading my perspective. I didn't say you were irrational, I said you were illogical because you are. Of course people of all nations have a race,(everyone has a race) but it isn't always the same as their race (ethnicity). Tell me something, do you consider Amrican as a race?
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If you don’t understand the word discrimination, then you won’t be able to debate about the stupid law SB1070. May be you’d be a heck of a good governor of Arizona. Or a Sheriff may be.
Since I know you won’t look it up, I wonder if someone could pull out the definition of the word “Discrimination.” [/-]
Already replied to this nonsense.
 

Lue C Fur

Evil member
If this does not piss you off then there is something wrong with you:

Illegal Immigrants Crime Spree in WA.


One woman is dead and two others were raped recently and police say each crime was committed by a different illegal immigrant. One of the sexual assaults happened just hours before the Seattle city council passed an ordinance boycotting Arizona over its new immigration law.
Gregorio Luna Luna had a history of beating up his live-in girlfriend Griselda Ocampo Meza. He was also in the U.S. illegally. On May 1, Luna Luna was deported to Mexico. Three weeks later Meza was murdered in her apartment in a violent knife attack.
Franklin County prosecutors say Luna Luna slipped past the border again and killed Meza in front of their five year old son. He's in the county jail awaiting trial.
A suspected rapist in Edmonds, Washington has been deported at least 4 times according to Snohomish County prosecutors. Jose Lopez Madrigal has been charged with raping a woman next to a dumpster behind a Safeway store. A witness to the attack alerted police and Madrigal was taken into custody.
An illegal immigrant just convicted of his possible 3rd strike in Whatcom county- a rape of a homeless woman- has been deported to Mexico five times.

Read more here with video:

http://liveshots.blogs.foxnews.com/2010/06/01/illegal-immigrants-crime-spree-in-wa/?test=latestnews
 
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