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Babagounj

Strength through joy
http://news.nationalpost.com/2010/0...-five-points-and-you-lose-ottawa-league-says/
In yet another nod to the protection of fledgling self-esteem, an Ottawa children’s soccer league has introduced a rule that says any team that wins a game by more than five points will lose by default.
Bruce Cappon, called the rule ludicrous. “I couldn’t find anywhere in the world, even in a communist country, where that rule is enforced,” he said.
 

Babagounj

Strength through joy
CHEROKEE COUNTY, Ga. – A massive counterfeiting operation was busted in Cherokee County. Investigators said the operation made various forms of IDs for illegal immigrants inside an apartment and it was the largest authorities there say they’ve ever seen.
Police said they made three arrests in the bust, but that was just the tip of the iceberg.
Massive Fake ID Ring for ILLEGALS Busted
 

klein

Für Meno :)
http://news.nationalpost.com/2010/0...-five-points-and-you-lose-ottawa-league-says/
In yet another nod to the protection of fledgling self-esteem, an Ottawa children’s soccer league has introduced a rule that says any team that wins a game by more than five points will lose by default.
Bruce Cappon, called the rule ludicrous. “I couldn’t find anywhere in the world, even in a communist country, where that rule is enforced,” he said.

This article says it the best (LoL) :

At the 2010 Olympic Winter Games, the Canadian women's hockey team just can't win.
The scores are favour-able: an 18-0 victory against Slovakia last Saturday; 10-1 against the Swiss on Monday, 13-1 against Sweden yesterday, all results that challenged headline writers to find new synonyms for "rout."
The problem: If the Canadians continue to pot goals every few minutes against weaker opponents, they are accused of running up the score; and if they hold back, they risk making their sport look bad and humiliating their opponents even more.

Team Canada head coach Melody Davidson said this week that whenever the Canadian women achieve a lopsided win over their international opponents, she receives emails condemning their rudeness.
"We played fine, we didn't battle as hard as we could. Our job was to win the hockey game and we did," said Ms. Davidson, defending her team after the demolition of Slovakia.
"It's definitely mentally hard. They care what Canadians and the world thinks of them. All we hear is about how we're classless and disrespectful. It's a no-win situation."
 
Actually my all time favorite I won't tell on here, it's a family nickname....but the one I was referencing is Tex....:happy2:
On the rest of the post, I was incorrect in saying you had added the "in the USA" my apologies for that. I misread the quote from your post, my concentration was broken up. But that doesn't change what it says. The definition is quite clear that race and ethnicity are pretty much the same thing. and that was my point.

I still do not agree that the author of the law is as important as what the law says. The motivation for the law is obvious, it is an attempt to curtail illegal immigrants in the State of Az.
The law creating more problems than it solves is an opinion not fact, in time we will see. The SCotUS will (hopefully) decide on the constitutionality of this law. If they hear the case and rule as unconstitutional, I predict it will not be on the grounds of racism in the application of the law. Again, we will see.

If I have to support the UN to get a free meal anywhere, I'll go hungry that night. There are other ways to find out what the laws are of other countries, what my rights are there and what hoops I have to jump through to be there.

[FONT=&quot]Because [FONT=&quot]“Discrimination against illegals from Mexico is not racism[/FONT][FONT=&quot].” is an absurd thought. But the debate for your new sentence is still open in this thread.
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As I said before, I don't feel discrimination is right even though it is not always based on race, but can be on several other aspects. The properly worded sentence is based on what I have read in SB1070. The law does not allow for profiling, i.e. pulling over someone because they appear to be of a specific race. The law does not allow the asking for proof of nationality(after the initial stop) if the subject has proper ID.
It would be naive to believe that no profiling will occur(it already exists), there are bad apples in every barrel. That is an issue that will have to be addressed under the law as well. I do believe that the vast majority of law enforcement officers are fair and just in the way they conduct their jobs.
I don't believe our Bill of Rights will be officially violated by the application of SB1070. We will see.
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Bad example Texan. Although I don't like violence, I don't think you'd be able to knock me out, unless you're like a Rocky Balboa in Rocky 6 and I have two broken hands, feel a stomachache, and we're filming in the desert with no water.



uuuh...it was a joke.
 

UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)

Well-Known Member
Klein, it's one thing to win and yet another to run up the score.

I coached both Little League and Babe Ruth baseball when my son was growing up. Whenever a game was getting out of hand I would pull my starting pitcher and stronger players and give my bench players more playing time. I would also tell the kids that if they hit a single not to try to stretch it in to a double. You can't stop playing the game but you can do so without running up the score.

We also had a gentleman's agreement among the coaches that scores reported to the local paper would have no more than a 9 run difference. For example, if the actual acore was 18-3 it would be reported as 12-3. Yes, the kids still knew, but their classmates did not

My daughter played hockey and if her team was winning big her coach would tell the kids to pass the puck at least 5 times before putting a shot on net. Again, you can't stop playing the game, but you don't have to run up the score. Winning 5-4 counts as a win just as much as winning 18-0 does.

A simple solution to all of this would be a mercy rule.
 

wkmac

Well-Known Member
Klein, it's one thing to win and yet another to run up the score.

I coached both Little League and Babe Ruth baseball when my son was growing up. Whenever a game was getting out of hand I would pull my starting pitcher and stronger players and give my bench players more playing time. I would also tell the kids that if they hit a single not to try to stretch it in to a double. You can't stop playing the game but you can do so without running up the score.

We also had a gentleman's agreement among the coaches that scores reported to the local paper would have no more than a 9 run difference. For example, if the actual acore was 18-3 it would be reported as 12-3. Yes, the kids still knew, but their classmates did not

My daughter played hockey and if her team was winning big her coach would tell the kids to pass the puck at least 5 times before putting a shot on net. Again, you can't stop playing the game, but you don't have to run up the score. Winning 5-4 counts as a win just as much as winning 18-0 does.

A simple solution to all of this would be a mercy rule.

Appreciate that attitude with the youngsters and sports. Enjoyed the post. Thanks.
 

dilligaf

IN VINO VERITAS
Klein, it's one thing to win and yet another to run up the score.

I coached both Little League and Babe Ruth baseball when my son was growing up. Whenever a game was getting out of hand I would pull my starting pitcher and stronger players and give my bench players more playing time. I would also tell the kids that if they hit a single not to try to stretch it in to a double. You can't stop playing the game but you can do so without running up the score.

We also had a gentleman's agreement among the coaches that scores reported to the local paper would have no more than a 9 run difference. For example, if the actual acore was 18-3 it would be reported as 12-3. Yes, the kids still knew, but their classmates did not

My daughter played hockey and if her team was winning big her coach would tell the kids to pass the puck at least 5 times before putting a shot on net. Again, you can't stop playing the game, but you don't have to run up the score. Winning 5-4 counts as a win just as much as winning 18-0 does.

A simple solution to all of this would be a mercy rule.
Your answer is excellent. It also allows the kids to keep a bit of dignity and encourages self-esteem. It's to bad that some adults don't have the same values as you and your other coaches did. Kids sports are far more competitive than they should be and it's not the kids that are making it that way.
 

klein

Für Meno :)
Your answer is excellent. It also allows the kids to keep a bit of dignity and encourages self-esteem. It's to bad that some adults don't have the same values as you and your other coaches did. Kids sports are far more competitive than they should be and it's not the kids that are making it that way.

+ 1 , Upstate ! Besides, passing the puck 5 times before a goal, is a great excerise, and benefits the entire team (teams)....

Why, I brouught this up, Dilli ?
Read the post before mine !
 

moreluck

golden ticket member
Now, Sanchez, in her own words says that the writers of the immigration bill are members of white supremecy groups. She needs to go !!! She's a racist!
 

Lue C Fur

Evil member
Now, Sanchez, in her own words says that the writers of the immigration bill are members of white supremecy groups. She needs to go !!! She's a racist!

So she played the:

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http://news.nationalpost.com/2010/0...-five-points-and-you-lose-ottawa-league-says/
In yet another nod to the protection of fledgling self-esteem, an Ottawa children’s soccer league has introduced a rule that says any team that wins a game by more than five points will lose by default.
Bruce Cappon, called the rule ludicrous. “I couldn’t find anywhere in the world, even in a communist country, where that rule is enforced,” he said.

Well, if a CANADIAN soccer league has decreed this to be a rule then it is pretty much the same as Moses coming down from Mount Sinai with the Ten Commandments. Clearly it is now the job of all of us Americans to pressure our local soccer leagues to have the same rule. After all, if we don't model our country after CANADA, we are doomed.
 

klein

Für Meno :)
Well, if a CANADIAN soccer league has decreed this to be a rule then it is pretty much the same as Moses coming down from Mount Sinai with the Ten Commandments. Clearly it is now the job of all of us Americans to pressure our local soccer leagues to have the same rule. After all, if we don't model our country after CANADA, we are doomed.
Who said , about adopting such a rule ? It's only 1 kids league, and somewhere I never been before.
It's not a national rule !

Maybe that league has some outsiders, poor performers , and they don't want to discourage them from playing a sport ?
As long as these little ones love the sport, it's much better for them, not to give up, and sit at home.
 

KingofBrown

Well-Known Member
Actually, I don’t think it’s a good idea to put limits to the kids. If they win by 5 or more goals let them do it. And if the opponent can’t handle it physically and mentally, then I think the coach has to decide if he wants to keep playing or not, and lose by default. It’s just my opinion. If this rule was applied to the league I used to play as a kid, I would have scored 6 goals, then make an auto-goal and rub it in the face of the opponent. LOL. JK.
Hey is this “Baba gounj” the reporter of browncafe?


http://news.nationalpost.com/2010/0...-five-points-and-you-lose-ottawa-league-says/
In yet another nod to the protection of fledgling self-esteem, an Ottawa children’s soccer league has introduced a rule that says any team that wins a game by more than five points will lose by default.
Bruce Cappon, called the rule ludicrous. “I couldn’t find anywhere in the world, even in a communist country, where that rule is enforced,” he said.
 

KingofBrown

Well-Known Member
Oh, no moreluck. She didn’t say that all people behind or who support the law are racists or white supremacists. She said that white supremacist groups are influencing lawmakers to adopt laws that will lead to discrimination. And I agree with her. And I may add too, that not only white supremacists ARE influencing, but HAVE been. I don’t see where you came up with that she’s a racist.

Now, Sanchez, in her own words says that the writers of the immigration bill are members of white supremecy groups. She needs to go !!! She's a racist!
 

moreluck

golden ticket member
Well, people who support the immigration bill are being called racists and that's not the case. People in favor of the bill are against ILLEGALS......people who commit a crime by entering this country the wrong way. It doesn't matter if the illegal person is Romanian, Iraqi, Mexican, Guatemalan, Irish, Indian, Martian or whatever.....they broke the law!!
 
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