Arizona's anti-imigration law...

Lue C Fur

Evil member
If social services weren't so easy to get in the US, this would be a non-issue.
I agree...even our freeloading welfare citizens suck the govt teet...our govt sucks.
If a person from the US goes to Mexico and goes to the hospital. The bill must be PAID before you leave. (Mexican people must pay their bills as well)
Aint America great...free healthcare even for illegals that also could be murders, child molesters, thieves, drug smugglers, etc.
If an American gets a job illegally- It's a FELONY.
We only punish the business owner for hiring illegals and its just a slap on the wrist. We also let the illegal go so he can go find another illegal job...our govt sucks.
If a foreigner in Mexico needs more help than a church or charity can provide, that is just too bad.
We give out so much charity that the freeloaders and illegals rely on it and expect it. If we deny anyone help then we are labeled racist. Aint America great.
Every time I turn on the TV (here in Kentucky) there is another story about some idiot blowing up their house or trailer with a meth lab. So you can't blame it all on the Mexican people.
Who is blaming all the Meth on Mexicans? There is enough trailer trash cooking meth and sucking on the govt teet (AKA Welfare) to go around.
And many of the people stealing American jobs that are seen as "good jobs" are WHITE. Canadians, British, (and other Europeans) South Africans, Austrailians, When they get fake papers no-one questions them because they are white. Next time a white person with a charming foreign accent waits on you in a fancy restaurant or up-scale shop. Chances are they are not here legally.
Wow!!! You mean that there are actually people here in America that are here legally doing jobs that Americans wont...no freaking way!!!! Maybe they can show the illegals how they did it the right way.
Racial profiling is not police work, it is for border patrol.
Who is racial profiling??? Have you been drinking the Liberal Kool-aid?
Who, by the way do not clear out HUGE woodland settlement camps of disruptive immigrant men who look for work by the side of the road, and at Home Depot parking lots in San Diego.
What????



 

moreluck

golden ticket member
It's all over......I watched Dog the other night and he exited the Waipahu exit off the H-1 freeway and went through some neighborhoods to "the jungle". It's gov't land and there are squatters living there for free. The little 'burgs" are hidden. The have cooking there and cock fights and drugs. They are mostly Phillipino (sp).
 

Calypso

Member
Who, by the way do not clear out HUGE woodland settlement camps of disruptive immigrant men who look for work by the side of the road, and at Home Depot parking lots in San Diego.
What????
http://www.examiner.com/x-10317-San...-residents-result-in-cool-reponse-from-police

Hi- it took me quite a while to find this link, This is the truth. I used to live there, it was on the news all the time. These guys are not poor, they are just CHEAP! they get tons of work and send all the money back to Mexico so they can build beautiful homes when they return.
Border patrol does NOTHING! They have vehicles patroling all of San Diego and North County.
So there you have it!

 

Lue C Fur

Evil member
http://www.examiner.com/x-10317-San...-residents-result-in-cool-reponse-from-police

Hi- it took me quite a while to find this link, This is the truth. I used to live there, it was on the news all the time. These guys are not poor, they are just CHEAP! they get tons of work and send all the money back to Mexico so they can build beautiful homes when they return.
Border patrol does NOTHING! They have vehicles patroling all of San Diego and North County.
So there you have it!


Maybe San Deigo needs to ask for Sherrif Arpaio to come and clean house. Again our govt does not enforce the laws so states like AZ have to do it themselves to protect their citizens.

I bet part of the problem is that San Diego is a Sanctuary city...another stupid Liberal idea.

 

Babagounj

Strength through joy
SCOTUS Gives Drug Using ‘Immigrants’ a Pass


Court blocks deportation over minor drug convictions

WASHINGTON —
The Supreme Court blocked the government Monday from routinely deporting legal immigrants for minor drug possession convictions, a decision that immigrant-rights lawyers said will spare tens of thousands of otherwise law-abiding residents from being sent out of this country.
In a 9-0 decision, the justices said a Texas man who had pled guilty at different times to having a marijuana cigarette and a single Xanax pill, an anti-anxiety drug, had been wrongfully deported.
 

Babagounj

Strength through joy
The Tie Between ID Theft & Illegal Immigration

Sarah Buduson
Reporter, KPHO.com
PHOENIX —
Valley identity theft expert said there’s a strong correlation between high rates of ID theft and the numbers of illegal immigrants in a state.
The states with the highest rates of identity theft complaints are also states with “illegal immigration issues,” according to Mark Pribish, an identity theft expert who works for Merchants Information Solutions.
“In those states,” said Pribish, “You have a lot of illegal immigrants filling out employment numbers with nine random numbers of where a Social Security number is supposed to be.”
“The Federal Trade Commission counts it as an identity theft event, so even though an actual ID theft event did not take place,” he said. “In reality, it’s an employment fraud event. You have misrepresentation on an employee application.”
In 2009, the states with the highest rates of identity theft complaints were Florida, Arizona, Texas, California and Nevada, according to the Federal Trade Commission’s website
 

Babagounj

Strength through joy
(CNN) — A proposed Arizona law would deny birth certificates to children born in the United States to illegal immigrant parents. The bill comes on the heels of Arizona passing the nation’s toughest immigration law.
John Kavanagh, a Republican state representative from Arizona who supports the proposed law aimed at so-called “anchor babies,” said that the concept does not conflict with the U.S. Constitution.
“If you go back to the original intent of the drafters … it was never intended to bestow citizenship upon (illegal) aliens,” said Kavanagh, who also supported Senate Bill 1070 — the law that gave Arizona authorities expanded immigration enforcement powers.
Under federal law, children born in the United States are automatically granted citizenship, regardless of their parents’ residency status.
Kyrsten Sinema, a Democratic state representative, strongly opposes the bill.
“Unlike (Senate Bill) 1070, it is clear this bill runs immediately afoul of the U.S. Constitution,” she said.
“While I understand that folks in Arizona and across the country support S.B. 1070, they do so because we have seen no action from the federal government,” said Sinema. “Unfortunately, the so-called ‘anchor baby’ bill does nothing to solve the real problems we are facing in Arizona.”
Arizona Republicans are expected to introduce the legislation this fall.
 

rod

Retired 23 years
(CNN) — A proposed Arizona law would deny birth certificates to children born in the United States to illegal immigrant parents. The bill comes on the heels of Arizona passing the nation’s toughest immigration law.
John Kavanagh, a Republican state representative from Arizona who supports the proposed law aimed at so-called “anchor babies,” said that the concept does not conflict with the U.S. Constitution.
“If you go back to the original intent of the drafters … it was never intended to bestow citizenship upon (illegal) aliens,” said Kavanagh, who also supported Senate Bill 1070 — the law that gave Arizona authorities expanded immigration enforcement powers.
Under federal law, children born in the United States are automatically granted citizenship, regardless of their parents’ residency status.
Kyrsten Sinema, a Democratic state representative, strongly opposes the bill.
“Unlike (Senate Bill) 1070, it is clear this bill runs immediately afoul of the U.S. Constitution,” she said.
“While I understand that folks in Arizona and across the country support S.B. 1070, they do so because we have seen no action from the federal government,” said Sinema. “Unfortunately, the so-called ‘anchor baby’ bill does nothing to solve the real problems we are facing in Arizona.”
Arizona Republicans are expected to introduce the legislation this fall.

If an American couple has a baby in Cozumel while on vacation does that mean the baby is a legal citizen of Mexico? Just curious
 

klein

Für Meno :)
If an American couple has a baby in Cozumel while on vacation does that mean the baby is a legal citizen of Mexico? Just curious

As far as I know, basically yes.
That baby will be issued a mexican birth certificate.

But, it doesn't make the baby an instant citizen. That baby later in life can apply for a Mexican passport.
Not every country allows Duo-Citizenship though.
So, it's either 1 or the other.

I was born by german parents in Canada. I have Duo-citizenship, and 2 passports.
My mother on the other hand, only has a German passport, and German Citizenship.
She can probably apply for a Canadian Citizenship (living here since 1957, legally), but she never felt the need for it.
 

KingofBrown

Well-Known Member
Well, Cowboy, what is clear is that there are authorities on the place. That’s clear. Of course I know lawmakers are not perfect, and as a consequence laws are not perfect. Read my statement again “flawless written” not “flawless laws need to be written.” And don’t say it’s the same for what you’re trying to say, because it’s not. People under their authority have to demand for perfect writing, thus laws become more accurate written objects to enforce rules. We need to request flawless written laws because, as you said, people that enforce them are not perfect and I believe that with more accurate laws they will do better. Because, just to give you an example, SB1070 (which is a very controversial law) goes to the extreme of mistakes. And with a controversial law you have to pay way more attention on the writing.

I don’t get it, you say this kind of treatment is not justified; but you say that this guy is partially responsible for his own death because he probably resisted arrest? You say there is no justification to beat someone to death, but you still give justifications of why he might have got beaten to death? That the guys on the back are only shadows, and you still say that there are agents involved? We better leave this to the investigators.

And about the rest that he was a criminal breaking several laws and so on… I don’t think it has something to do with the beating to death of a person, because that’s why we have judges, lawyers, courts and laws. And all those violations you mentioned do not deserve the death penalty. And all these justifications you gave don’t corroborate Anastasio Hernandez (RIP), in any way, liable for his own death.

...out of the car and started beating him, he probably resisted arrest which brought about more aggressive actions by the agents. It is clear this man, Anastasio Hernandez Rojas, is partially responsible for his own death.
In no way am I saying beating someone to death is justified, however, as you said, it is still under investigation.

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KingofBrown

Well-Known Member
Hey, did you watch Germany beating Australia 4-0, on the 2010 World Cup?

As far as I know, basically yes.
That baby will be issued a mexican birth certificate.

But, it doesn't make the baby an instant citizen. That baby later in life can apply for a Mexican passport.
Not every country allows Duo-Citizenship though.
So, it's either 1 or the other.

I was born by german parents in Canada. I have Duo-citizenship, and 2 passports.
My mother on the other hand, only has a German passport, and German Citizenship.
She can probably apply for a Canadian Citizenship (living here since 1957, legally), but she never felt the need for it.
 

KingofBrown

Well-Known Member
Tom Tancredo... hollyshoot.

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[FONT=Palatino, Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif][SIZE=+2]The price of accommodating Mexico
[/SIZE][/FONT]The Mexican government continues to oppose enhanced U.S. border security while Mexican cartels smuggle thousands of criminals and terrorists into the United States. The Obama administration continues to tolerate this national-security nightmare out of fear of offending the Mexican government and its allies in the National Council of La Raza.



Millions of Americans are asking, what's wrong with this picture? Why is Janet Napolitano more worried about border security for Saudi Arabia than for the citizens of Arizona?



It is important to understand the economic reasons behind Mexico's hostility to border security. Mexico's opposition to border security is rooted in the flow of money back to Mexico from the 20 to 30 million Mexican citizens working in the United States. Mexico wants that flow of dollars to continue and to increase. Mexico's addiction to those American dollars – over $25 billion in 2007 – has led the Mexican government into an unholy partnership with the drug cartels. Both the Mexican government and the cartels want open borders, and they both paint the American concern for border security as racist and "anti-Mexican."

But there is more than the flow of dollars at stake in the debate over border security. What most Americans do not understand is that the drug cartels control both the drug smuggling and the human trafficking. The "coyotes" who take people across the border are no longer freelance operators; they work for the cartels, and the cartels set the prices and make the rules.



A Mexican national or someone from Guatemala or Honduras will typically pay $1,500 to be taken across the border. But thousands of "other-than-Mexican" (OTMs) are also smuggled across the border by the same networks. Individuals from Brazil, Egypt and Nigeria pay $5,000 to $10,000 each. Thus, the large-scale smuggling of human beings brings additional billions to the drug cartels' coffers each year.



But there is a third, silent partner in this unholy alliance against border security. The terrorist organization Hezbollah is operating in Mexico and Latin America and is paying the drug cartels big bucks to get its agents into the United States. "High value" individuals from Pakistan, Yemen, Iran and Afghanistan pay from $20,000 to $50,000 to Mexican cartels to get into the United States.
 
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