Maybe I should hide my ethnicity, then I'd be fine in AZ.Would you be so willing to produce your ID if the only reason for the request was your ethnicity?
Maybe I should hide my ethnicity, then I'd be fine in AZ.Would you be so willing to produce your ID if the only reason for the request was your ethnicity?
Maybe I should hide my ethnicity, then I'd be fine in AZ.
I was being serious as well as to exemplify the ridiculousness of the enforcement and what I consider to be inherent flaw in the law. I can't hide my ethnicity, but it would be a determinent in asking for ID.I was being serious. It is so easy for those not affected by this on a daily basis, myself included, to say that they would have no problem showing their ID even though they were simply minding their own business and the only reason for the request is the color of their skin or their non-Anglo appearance.
Would you be so willing to produce your ID if the only reason for the request was your ethnicity?
you're clearly confused. anarchy currently exists in arizona. Police should be allowed to do their job. What you realistically need is for a few drug crazed illegals to break into your house cut your throat and rape your wife before you fully understand this point. Until that happens you'll keep lighting up one bong after another while you chase frivolous semantics of law.
you're right my view is extremely radical. I will willingly produce my ID anytime requested because I have nothing to hide. Were the Founding Fathers criminals trying to protect themselves when they inserted the 4th and 5th amendments into the Bill of Rights? how's that for radical?
Arizona is what 80 percent hispanic? I don't think the white minority has to wourry about racial profiling.
Let me expand on my answer. I've pretty sat back and watched with the exception of a few one liners here and there. The liberals continue to sell racial profiling in arizona as if arizona was representative of the jim crow/ george wallace south.
in fact Arizona is a very diverse state and in todays world realtiy is the police forces represent the diversity of the state.
so when you make the racial profiling arguement what you're really saying is that a hispanic police officer will engage in discriminatory pracitices against a hispanic person. I think your argument is already bump, but it seems you have never heard of people like Anna Gaines.
anyone else laughing at this arguement besides me?
I was being serious. It is so easy for those not affected by this on a daily basis, myself included, to say that they would have no problem showing their ID even though they were simply minding their own business and the only reason for the request is the color of their skin or their non-Anglo appearance.
Because it happens in the enforcement of other laws and don't pretend it doesn't. There doesn't have to be evidence a crime for law enforcement to ask for ID but as many have pointed out being an illegal in this country is, well, a crime. Therefore, someone acting "suspicious" (you tell me what that means) gives law enforcement the right to basically go fishing. Hell, the right has been defending the use of racial profiling for decades, and now you are going to tell me that with such a relaxed law they are going to use restraint? I don't see that happening.That would not happen...but the left wants everyone to believe that. Show me where it says that in the AZ law. This has been beat to death and i posted in the original link to this thread the AZ law....you dont get asked for your ID because of the color of your skin. Please show me where this says that in the AZ law.
Taxes are going to increase anyway and for much more frivolous reasons. While boots on the ground will certainly help, that's not the total answer. Another help would be for the enforcement of our immigration laws already on the books. I don't think anyone has suggested that this is a simple or inexpensive fix.Raise taxes institute the draft and deploy 100,000 service men and women on the border. I don't know how to make it any simpler and we may as well stop acting like it's gonna be cheap and easy.
I'm trying to meet people half way. I'm agreeing, secure the borders first. Just pay for it up front.Taxes are going to increase anyway and for much more frivolous reasons. While boots on the ground will certainly help, that's not the total answer. Another help would be for the enforcement of our immigration laws already on the books. I don't think anyone has suggested that this is a simple or inexpensive fix.
Tell me bbsam, would rather our tax dollars go to pay for making our citizens safer or for supporting people that are not supposed to be here?
I don't disagree with that. Not sure the federal government pays for anything up front, but I get your idea. It's a fact that every dollar the gov spends comes from the tax payers and everything the do cost money. My concern is, what programs do we really need and which ones are things that people should be doing for themselves. Securing the USA is the responsibility of the federal government, providing an abortions not. (please, no side argument on this thread, there's been too many already)I'm trying to meet people half way. I'm agreeing, secure the borders first. Just pay for it up front.
Have you seen the military budget in this country? We already are a military state it's just a question of deployment.At the risk of sounding naive, do we really want to turn our country in to a military state?