Arizona's anti-imigration law...
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KingofBrown
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Hey, that's the Neo Nazi guy Rusell Pearce (the author of SB1070) was taking pictures with.
UPS Lifer
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I think you answered your own question! If we don't secure the border we will probably have states such as my state that will require a heavy police or military presence in the future. I don't want that any more than you do.
tieguy
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as opposed to the drug lords running the country? we dont have to have the country run by the military just the border.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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This is why I qualified my question with "at the risk of sounding naive".
Yeah. Keep the American drug lords running the cities. And the MMS, covert ops, and the prison system.
Babagounj
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Obama’s DOJ Sues Companies that Ask for Proof of Citizenship
Rugmaker accused of asking for too much citizenship proof
Dave Flessner
Three months after one carpet maker agreed to pay $18 million to settle claims it didn’t do enough to verify the immigration status of its workers, another is being charged with demanding too much hiring documentation.
The U.S. Department of Justice is suing Garland Sales Inc., claiming the Dalton rugmaker discriminated last year against a Spanish-speaking job applicant by demanding he produce a “green card,” the federal document that is proof an immigrant is a legal, permanent U.S. resident.
The applicant, Juan R. Alanis, is a U.S. citizen who showed a Georgia driver’s license and his Social Security card to Garland’s personnel director to verify his citizenship and employment eligibility.
In an eight-page complaint against the company, the Executive Office for Immigration Review charged that Garland Sales improperly withdrew its job offer to Mr. Alanis after he told a company interpreter he didn’t have a green card because he is a U.S. citizen.
(note: he needed an interpreter)
Rugmaker accused of asking for too much citizenship proof
Dave Flessner
Three months after one carpet maker agreed to pay $18 million to settle claims it didn’t do enough to verify the immigration status of its workers, another is being charged with demanding too much hiring documentation.
The U.S. Department of Justice is suing Garland Sales Inc., claiming the Dalton rugmaker discriminated last year against a Spanish-speaking job applicant by demanding he produce a “green card,” the federal document that is proof an immigrant is a legal, permanent U.S. resident.
The applicant, Juan R. Alanis, is a U.S. citizen who showed a Georgia driver’s license and his Social Security card to Garland’s personnel director to verify his citizenship and employment eligibility.
In an eight-page complaint against the company, the Executive Office for Immigration Review charged that Garland Sales improperly withdrew its job offer to Mr. Alanis after he told a company interpreter he didn’t have a green card because he is a U.S. citizen.
(note: he needed an interpreter)
Babagounj
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OTHER LAWSUITS
In April, the world’s biggest floorcovering company, Mohawk Industries, agreed to settle a lawsuit brought by former employees who charged that the company hired illegal workers by failing to adequately document their citizenship. Mohawk denied the allegations but will pay $18 million to settle the 6-year-old lawsuit.
Robert Divine, an immigration lawyer in Chattanooga, said Garland and other carpet makers are wary after Mohawk’s experience about not doing enough to screen potential illegal immigrants.
“It’s always been a Catch-22 for employers,” Mr. Divine said. They have to ask for enough documentation so they won’t be fined for failing to confirm employment eligibility. But then they risk suits for discrimination, said Mr. Divine, who previously was chief counsel for the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services.
“The Obama administration has been much more active in enforcing the immigration law’s anti-discrimination provisions than the Bush administration,” Stephen Yale-Loehr, an immigration law scholar at Cornell University, told The Wall Street Journal last week.
The Justice Department is boosting its staff of immigration-related hiring discrimination investigators by 25 percent this year, the Journal reported
In April, the world’s biggest floorcovering company, Mohawk Industries, agreed to settle a lawsuit brought by former employees who charged that the company hired illegal workers by failing to adequately document their citizenship. Mohawk denied the allegations but will pay $18 million to settle the 6-year-old lawsuit.
Robert Divine, an immigration lawyer in Chattanooga, said Garland and other carpet makers are wary after Mohawk’s experience about not doing enough to screen potential illegal immigrants.
“It’s always been a Catch-22 for employers,” Mr. Divine said. They have to ask for enough documentation so they won’t be fined for failing to confirm employment eligibility. But then they risk suits for discrimination, said Mr. Divine, who previously was chief counsel for the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services.
“The Obama administration has been much more active in enforcing the immigration law’s anti-discrimination provisions than the Bush administration,” Stephen Yale-Loehr, an immigration law scholar at Cornell University, told The Wall Street Journal last week.
The Justice Department is boosting its staff of immigration-related hiring discrimination investigators by 25 percent this year, the Journal reported
tieguy
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the immigration issue is basically a lost cause to me. I'll have fun with it but I don't see anything changing. Minorities are really the power majority in this country and they basically dictate their own rules. No one's evicting 12 million illegals. the democratic party will do anything they can to keep the flow of future democratic voters flowing.
Racial profiling or the accusation of such is a wonderful tool designed to keep those against illegal immigration back on their heels. In todays world cops are afraid to engage in anything that might get racism charges and probably lean the other way instead of doing their jobs.
what really worries me is the border security issues. The fact americans living near the border live in fear of their lives. The fact that any terrorist can sneak across that border anytime they want. I want to seal that border to protect american citizens.
trplnkl
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What is you problem with Anna Gaines? Granted I haven't read a lot about her, but the things I have read tried to paint her in a very bad light, but it was all being done by a left wing nut job news blog. I also watched a few youtube vids of her speeches and she sounded OK to me. I would like to hear from you why you bring her name up.
That's because in the search for Obama's birth certificate you've lost your mind.
av8torntn
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I am suggesting that there has never been a "war on drugs" and that there have been some very powerful and rich people involved in the drug trade and everyone knows it. Ever hear of a boxer named Michael Nunn? Back in the nineties when I was heavy into drugs, he was the main supply route into the area. When his star finally fell, the feds moved in and now he's doing big, big prison time. Why did it take so long? Well you just don't take down that kind of money. It's my guess this happens all over the US but at even larger scales.
KingofBrown
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I got no problems with Anna Gaines, Texan. I just referenced the nonsense and unfounded comment from your buddy Tie. But, if you’d like to listen any further about my point of view of Ms. Anna Gaines, first you’ll have to give me the facts I’ve asked you for; the facts that you claim that Ron Gochez is linked with NCLR, and that NCLR is an agitator of violence. If you don’t have any, you’re welcome to say you got none, and that you have had mixed things up, once again, Cowboy.
I have had listened to Anna Gaines’ conversations in both English and Spanish, besides the reading. So I think I got a wider identified overview about her, than what you do. I’m anxious for your facts. Oh. There’s also this little guy with Guatemalan origins, he’s an Hispanic Minuteman wannabe.’
The whole point here is that your buddy Tie (although I don’t think he has any argument with his so claimed unfounded Census Facts) believes that a Hispanic cannot act discriminatory towards another Hispanic. LOL. That’s the whole point. Oh, and don’t say I’m getting off topic; you’re the one that wants to talk about the Anna Gaines issue. See, you’re the one that likes to get off the topic of the whole point too much, if you still want to talk about those kinds of people, I’ll be more than happy to. Remember to give your facts.
By the way, do you also think that there’s an 80% Hispanic population in AZ? LOL.
I have had listened to Anna Gaines’ conversations in both English and Spanish, besides the reading. So I think I got a wider identified overview about her, than what you do. I’m anxious for your facts. Oh. There’s also this little guy with Guatemalan origins, he’s an Hispanic Minuteman wannabe.’
The whole point here is that your buddy Tie (although I don’t think he has any argument with his so claimed unfounded Census Facts) believes that a Hispanic cannot act discriminatory towards another Hispanic. LOL. That’s the whole point. Oh, and don’t say I’m getting off topic; you’re the one that wants to talk about the Anna Gaines issue. See, you’re the one that likes to get off the topic of the whole point too much, if you still want to talk about those kinds of people, I’ll be more than happy to. Remember to give your facts.
By the way, do you also think that there’s an 80% Hispanic population in AZ? LOL.
KingofBrown
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What the heck!? I thought your Communist comments were already enough, but it seems you like to keep on getting it further.
Dude, the drug thing is one of the most cried arguments by Ms. Brewer, Arpaio, etc. and even from your buddies here, and you’ve just hit it.
Dude, the drug thing is one of the most cried arguments by Ms. Brewer, Arpaio, etc. and even from your buddies here, and you’ve just hit it.
I'm sure they know it. They see it everyday that they watch dealers walk in and out of the system.
Now, Lucy are you trying to tell me that you, like a former president didn't inhale?Well now...that explains alot.
Doesn't matter. I "don't regret the past nor wish to close the door on it". I know for a fact the corridors of money and power that are entangled in the drug trade. There's no "war" going on, unless it's a gang-like turf war.
