bluebiker

Well-Known Member
And why do some tractors have pre pass and some don't?

As far as I know UPS doesn't have prepass in the sleeper, at least 3-4 yrs ago they didn't, would save a little time. (And time is money) You'll go thru a toll booth with a 5 axle ezpass bobtailing, I figure the bean counter figure the time savings is worth not paying a driver for sitting on line.
 

104Feeder

Phoenix Feeder
Here's a question for more seasoned guys. Why does the pup sometimes tail to the right. I hate that. My meet guy calls it a "mail box getter"
I find it's either a light cross wind or the slope of the road for water runoff (more pronounced on either side). My car does the same thing on sections of the freeway that are sloped more than others. It's hard to see a cross breeze here because the scrub brush doesn't move much. A light breeze will move the rear box just enough so you notice it.

Now a cross wind will move it much more. On I-40 this time of year the winds pick up and it's directly 90 degrees from the road, so sometimes I can see the emblem quite clearly on the rear box. Usually when it's that bad I'll slow down to about 45 mph. DPS must think that is the right speed, as they will escort traffic across behind me but match my speed.
 

104Feeder

Phoenix Feeder
And why do some tractors have pre pass and some don't?
Here, only our sleeper tractors and layover tractors have prepass so they don't have to stop at the scales as often. They could probably save a lot of time putting Prepass in all the California bound tractors as the border scales seem to be always working and rarely bypass us anymore.

Love their "Big Big John" theme song.
 

104Feeder

Phoenix Feeder
Probably borderline overweight with 45's and 48's, it's the 53's that are really overweight, especially the new railboxes. If the DOT wanted to generate some extra dollars they could set up the portable chicken coop outside the railyard and just stop every single axle pulling a 53'.
We've never had a single axle get an overweight ticket in a 45' or 48' here, but did have a problem with sets out of Grande Vista CA , especially SC's. That led to a directive to only use twin screws to CA which was followed, then ignored, now is mostly followed again. The 53' rail cars definitely pose a problem, as they might not be overweight as a whole but they usually are overweight on the drive axle. We're getting mostly twin screws for our new tractors which I must say is about time.
 

'Lord Brown's bidding'

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I have a question about the situation Mace shared....

Let's say he had gone out with the dolly set - up as the shop had suggested, and let's say he or his swap partner had gotten stopped at a scale house....

Would he have to leave the dolly and trailer at that house, or would he have to stay there with the trailer? Would someone's head roll for something like that? Mace would be ok as he got the approval of the mechanic to go,yes.....or no?
 

104Feeder

Phoenix Feeder
I have a question about the situation Mace shared....

Let's say he had gone out with the dolly set - up as the shop had suggested, and let's say he or his swap partner had gotten stopped at a scale house....

Would he have to leave the dolly and trailer at that house, or would he have to stay there with the trailer? Would someone's head roll for something like that? Mace would be ok as he got the approval of the mechanic to go,yes.....or no?

In a combination vehicle, you have to have at least one working stop lamp and both turn signals only on the rearmost trailer (day or night) and one working tail light (dusk to dawn)or it's considered "out of service" so he would have been legal with the dolly lights not working. That said, nothing prevents a State or Fed DOT person from saying you can't continue without all the lights working, even though technically it's a "fix-it ticket" which allows you to continue to the nearest repair facility. Myself, I'll forgo the dolly if necessary but not when I am at the building where I can switch dollies or have one fixed. I like 360 degrees of visibility and have every light on all day long to increase the chance that I'll be seen.

In overweight situations they've asked us "if we can fix it" which you always answer yes and then Dispatch will send out a driver or two to take one of the boxes or redistribute to an empty trailer. I would assume that is what could happen in this case. In my State they would probably let you drop one of the boxes and/or dolly and continue on if they were in a good mood and you had someone in route. Generally there are tow facilities nearby every scale location so that is an option too.

The Driver is ultimately the "captain of the ship" and has to make the determination of whether to continue. Here is a handy link to the most current out of service criteria:
http://read.dmtmag.com/i/119917
 

104Feeder

Phoenix Feeder
Oh and one caveat: While not having all your lights operational on the rearmost trailer might not place you out of service, it will still count against your CSA2010 'score' which could affect you, and UPS, in other ways, should it be noted during an inspection.
 

MaceFremonti

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Saw a UPS Freight Volvo single screw sleeper unit today. Have never seen a Freight sleeper and have NEVER seen any kind of single screw full size sleeper before!

Also saw a gentlemen parked on the shoulder today, pants around his ankles, squatting down, taking care of business and leaving a steaming pile on the plowed snow bank. In full view of everyone driving by. :eek:

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QKRSTKR

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I never heard of sc containers being overweight. The ones I have loaded going to say GVICA usually weigh around 14000 or so on a single screw axle according to our scales. Is it a local problem out of GVICA?
 

bluebiker

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Saw a UPS Freight Volvo single screw sleeper unit today. Have never seen a Freight sleeper and have NEVER seen any kind of single screw full size sleeper before!

Also saw a gentlemen parked on the shoulder today, pants around his ankles, squatting down, taking care of business and leaving a steaming pile on the plowed snow bank. In full view of everyone driving by. :eek:

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I've seen a few single screw sleepers, 1 or 2 w/FedEx and a random one here or there.
 

104Feeder

Phoenix Feeder
I never heard of sc containers being overweight. The ones I have loaded going to say GVICA usually weigh around 14000 or so on a single screw axle according to our scales. Is it a local problem out of GVICA?

Yes our issue was loads coming out of Grande through/to Phoenix. It was more about being overweight on the drive axle than total gross vehicle combined weight.
 

pretender

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As unpleasent as that seems, it's kind of ironic.

In the eyes of the law.... it's a natural bodily function "sometimes" you can't regulate.

But, pull over and take a wizz.... you can be arrested for exposure. It's happened.



-Bug-

If you get a note from the doctor stating that you have Uromysitisis, you can get a public urination pass.
 
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