Dracula
Package Car is cake compared to this...
We don’t have that on-call crap. Here, you are either a full time feeder driver, or you are in a different job classification.
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We don’t have that on-call crap. Here, you are either a full time feeder driver, or you are in a different job classification.
Rick Ross
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How do they cover vacations and call outs over and above the coverage list? We don't have any part-time people in feeders but have a bunch on the Q list, which is 100% on call a good portion of the year.
retiredTxfeeder
cap'n crunch
We also only had only FT feeder drivers in my department. A certain % of the seniority list was coverage. The cover board was actually a bid job. (Cover#1, cover#2, etc.) Some senior guys actually liked changing jobs every week. The coverage board had everything from 30 year guys to newbies. If there were more guys on the coverage board than the number of vacations, the lower guys were on call and cover for call ins.
Dracula
Package Car is cake compared to this...
We're similar. We have bid cover jobs (that cover time slots, everyday), variable cover jobs (cover weekly jobs, vacations, comp, disability) and if they have too many drivers, they get laid off or go into the hub. This doesn't happen very often around here. I think it's been a few years since that's happened. I don't know how a person could rely on work for an on-call list. I've talked to guys that were lucky to get called once a week. How are you supposed to make a living like that?
Q list drivers are still in package and have bid routes in their respective delivery centers so even when they are "on call" they can go back and run their route if feeders doesn't have work for them that day but in my experience the majority of them are happy to take a day or two off rather than go back to delivery.
Coldworld
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I bet now that 11am job would go to a higher seniority driver...
Coldworld
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I was thinking about this last night... what is the little d ring for right above the light cord and gladhands on the front of the trailer. I thought it might have something to do with the light cord but on some of the trailers this little d ring is to the side of the light plug....anyone know what that is for????
Rick Ross
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It's different everywhere. We have no part-time feeder drivers but have hired feeder drivers from part-time and off the street. Only Super Q drivers are guaranteed package work but they will usually take anyone with previous package experience.
Thats why giving feeder seniority to the bottom guy on the 3rd bid wouldn't work for us.
Rick Ross
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I put long zip ties on the old ones for a resuable light cord shim.
but I'm sure that's not the intended use.
Coldworld
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I’ve done the same thing with a bungee... I’m wondering if it’s to hang green and red tags from....I put long zip ties on the old ones for a resuable light cord shim.
Rick Ross
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That makes sense.
Coldworld
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I still like the idea of using it to prop up a light cord...
retiredTxfeeder
cap'n crunch
I always used it with bungee cords to take some of the droop out of the light cords, especially if they were the long straight ones and not the curly ones.
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ManInBrown
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Same here. You’re either a feeder driver or you aren’t. Guaranteed 8, no on call. There’s about 60 drivers on a spare list, that cover vacations.
Aren't you in the Atlantic Area? I'm curious how a Super Q driver could be guaranteed package work ahead of a Q list driver, given that Super Q drivers are in feeder classification and Q list drivers are in package classification.
Rick Ross
I'm into distribution!!
Yes
Same here. We went through this a few years back, the company took the position that when a Q list driver was called up for the week they had no choice but to be on call and if the feeders didn't have work that day/ night then they just stayed home. We had a couple Q listers who grieved that and won, so now feeders has to let them know before their delivery center start time whether or not they have work for them that day so that they have the option of running their delivery route.
Rick Ross
I'm into distribution!!
We don't have any drivers who are called up from package. In the past few years every time a package driver has come over it's been right before our bid and they've been fortunate enough to go right into a bid route. Package guys always says they're coming to feeders but rarely do.
We do have some Q list guys who want to only work mornings, if they aren't called in early, package will usually let them work. A few will also go into preload if they don't get early work, they want a set schedule and don't care about the loss of $$. Feeders doesn't care unless too many are scheduled off.
Going to meet points it amazes me how different the same company can be.
barnyard
KTM rider
This is one area that none of the recent contracts have addressed. This contract, there is all kinds of talk of adding feeder jobs. Those jobs will only be added at hubs. It is doubtful that I will ever be able to sign a bid for my own run. When I started, there were 10 feeder jobs in my building, now there are 4. How about instead of hiring feeder guys off the street, jobs are either moved to out-state buildings or let out-state guys bid on hub jobs.
Rick Ross
I'm into distribution!!
The Atlantic supplement is letting part-time employees put in letters for unfilled full-time jobs at other buildings. It's about the only bright spot in the supplement.
I have to believe something is up with Amazon. Maybe UPS is planning to lose some/most of the delivery side but is looking to add work on the sorting and feeder side of the business. I've heard of feeder runs taking full air loads directly to Amazon buildings. All of the added capacity added or in thetprocess of being added has to be used for something. Lots of huge buildings coming online.
