over9five

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. If you feel sleepy. Find a place to take a few minutes and close your eyes. Let mgt. know. Don't drive with the nods.....this is ultra dangerous
I want to re-emphasize this. If you're nodding, PULL OVER. Myself, I don't bother telling management. Pull over, set your cell alarm for 15 minutes, and take a nap. Quick nap like that can get you through the rest of your shift.
I've done this many times, no-one has ever asked me about it.
 

trickpony1

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Carry several trash can liners and some toilet paper.
Things can sometimes happen unexpectedly (use your imagination).
It happened to me......broad daylight....rest area.....no restrooms.....cars and trucks driving by.
My next stop was my meet point......couldn't make it.
What would you have done?
 

Covemastah

Hoopah drives the boat Chief !!
I want to re-emphasize this. If you're nodding, PULL OVER. Myself, I don't bother telling management. Pull over, set your cell alarm for 15 minutes, and take a nap. Quick nap like that can get you through the rest of your shift.
I've done this many times, no-one has ever asked me about it.
They will now , I'll let them know 😂😂😂
 

ManInBrown

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Carry several trash can liners and some toilet paper.
Things can sometimes happen unexpectedly (use your imagination).
It happened to me......broad daylight....rest area.....no restrooms.....cars and trucks driving by.
My next stop was my meet point......couldn't make it.
What would you have done?
Happened to me one time. Was about 15 minutes from the building I was driving to. Was running all the scenarios in my head. Trying to figure out where I could stop in case I didn’t make it, all while sweating profusely. Luckily I made it. Afternoon cup of coffee just hit wrong that day I guess.
 

barnyard

KTM rider
Pull over, set your cell alarm for 15 minutes, and take a nap. Quick nap like that can get you through the rest of your shift.
I've done this many times, no-one has ever asked me about it.
My training supe told me that if I was tired, he expected me to pull over for a quick nap. He said when you arrive a little later than expected, if a supe asks, just say, "You are welcome. I brought these to you safely and that is the important part."
 

over9five

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My training supe told me that if I was tired, he expected me to pull over for a quick nap. He said when you arrive a little later than expected, if a supe asks, just say, "You are welcome. I brought these to you safely and that is the important part."
Pretty much the same with me. Feeder manager told me we'd rather have a late load than a wreck.
 

ManInBrown

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If you’re tired absolutely pull over for a quick nap, but don’t miss your alarm pulling a night load somewhere with a cut off. We had a driver pulling an Albany night load that pulled over for a quick nap. 3 hours later he woke up. Tried to fire him. Weren’t successful but don’t sleep thru your alarm.
 

HFolb23

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Thanks all for the advice. Packing list sounds a lot like what I would carry during package. I’m glad you suggested carrying tools too. I had some salty PT supervisor tell me I was robbing work from the mechanics and that he would report me for stealing time if he ever saw me using the tools during the day. I told him to take a long walk off a short pier. If I can fix a mirror bracket or a door latch with a few turns of an adjustable I’m doing it rather than deal with it the rest of the day. My mechanics never seemed to care, they just asked me to let them know in case it was a temporary repair so they could fix it right.

I drove linehaul for Uncle Sam before coming back to UPS and into feeders, including all last year on an active duty status hauling equipment. The last assignment they had me run was a 760mi turn and burn trip daily trip and that’s pretty much what convinced me that I might be okay going to feeders.

Thanks to my time in those US Army tractors and trailers, I’m all too familiar with how crappy breakdowns can be. Always seemed to happen when I had plans after work too. Gotta love vehicles that the government gets from the lowest bidder.

I love all the recommendations of taking a nap, already have my day cab lounger ready to order once I qualify. I think one of the biggest struggles I’ll have is leaving the package delivery mindset behind when I climb into that tractor.
 

hondo

promoted to mediocrity
Start in feeders tomorrow. Don’t have a ton of details yet but i think the first week is 40hrs of training and then I do 30 days on my own? I’ll find out tomorrow I suppose.

Anyways, I’ve got a pin puller and a set of gloves. I have an LED flashlight but going to upgrade that to a rechargeable one that one of our feeder drivers showed me that can charge via USB cable in the truck. Anything else I should acquire as feeder driver must-haves?
@HFolb23 : definitely keep a second (backup) flashlight with you. 'quad decade guy's response above is really good. I would add: disposable (nitrile or latex) gloves if you're going to be messing with something greasy/dirty (or to cover your hands if you realized too late, and are now greased up). Elaborating on cleaning supplies: a really good glass cleaner, paper towels that you know are good for glass cleaning (it's been my experience that the company's paper towels are useless for glass/mirrors), and a good strong cleaner/degreaser/disinfectant. A small tube of 'mechanic's' hand cleaner. A pocket notebook or notepad: to keep track of the SLICs used to identify destinations, and your dolly # (that disappears from your IVIS when dispatch "updates" your load information). A stray roll of clear package tape (for loose fitting gladhand connections that will come apart over rough roads, and a knife and/or cutting pliers to cut tape/zip ties/etc).

Items from the company to keep with you: red tags, cable seals (very handy for swing door containers or trailers that are missing a chain/cable hold-back), a couple 'rail bolts' & cone locks, rail pouches, a few of the mechanic's shop rags.

Some habits to consider adopting: before pulling away, a quick checklist; double check number(s) on trailer(s) against IVIS and seal control paperwork, do you have the paperwork (I swear that pouch likes to jump out of your pocket), are your gloves & tire thumper in the cab with you (or did you set them down somewhere else?). Make sure you know where you're going (some loads are routed differently on different days of the week), how you plan to get there, and anything you need to know when you get there (ask other drivers). For example, I had a customer pickup (live load) on a busy 4 lane, 45mph road, that on a satellite view (or to an inexperienced driver or supervisor) looked like you could pull into the driveway in front of the receiving dock, drive through the parking area along the front of the building, pull out into the street in front of shipping dock, and back straight in. Well that only worked if you had a 45' trailer, and none of the employees parked where they shouldn't have. Fortunately I had been warned the 2 options were (a) wait in curb lane with flashers on for a break in traffic to blindside in (and make the acquaintance of a local or county cop who wants to know why you're blocking traffic), or (b) go past the stop, turn around, come back and wait in the median to get a feel for the timing of the traffic light, and flow of vehicles in both directions, then pull into the oncoming traffic lanes towards the curb before swinging out for a sight side back; with a lot of horn use either way.
 

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Back From Break
and your dolly # (that disappears from your IVIS when dispatch "updates" your load information).

I can't stand this.

I'll hook, pre-trip, insert dolly number into IVIS and get everything ready to go. A few minutes before I leave, I'll get a schedule update with the same 2 trailers, but bye, bye dolly in my IVIS. I have to get out a get the dolly number again to input it in the IVIS for the second time.
 

HFolb23

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Thank you again for you continued advice.

I understand many of you haven’t touched a DIAD in a long time, but maybe for some of you fresher feeder drivers, when comparing the DIAD to the IVIS, how much more difficult is it to learn the IVIS?
 

ManInBrown

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Thank you again for you continued advice.

I understand many of you haven’t touched a DIAD in a long time, but maybe for some of you fresher feeder drivers, when comparing the DIAD to the IVIS, how much more difficult is it to learn the IVIS?
It’s like anything, it will take some getting used to. You’re going to be overwhelmed with all the other stuff. The IVIS will be the least of your concerns.
 

Made brown

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Thank you again for you continued advice.

I understand many of you haven’t touched a DIAD in a long time, but maybe for some of you fresher feeder drivers, when comparing the DIAD to the IVIS, how much more difficult is it to learn the IVIS?
There are certain functions on the ivis that you will learn as you go such as delay for anything from late train to waiting for your bid tractor to arrive. The ivis doesn't have many bells and whistles, mostly you will use schedule edit and activities. I figured the ivis out in about a good week. But I learn new things all the time in situations that come up. Best of luck and be safe.

On a side note I once heard that we can take a nap anytime we feel fatigued enough to be a safety hazard. They said just put yourself on meal because you don't get paid for sleeping. The next sentence was unless you have a preload because the package drivers are counting on us meeting our commit times.
 
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