Ask a Feeder Driver, Feeder Driver FAQ

[govols019]

That is one thing about feeders. I feel like there is so many ways they can mess with runs or violate the contract and it’s easy for them to hide it. Someone who just comes to work every day and does his job would never know.

It's sad but you have to watch these folks like a hawk. They'll do shady underhanded things when doing it the right way would be easier and cheaper.

 

[retiredTxfeeder]

It's sad but you have to watch these folks like a hawk. They'll do shady underhanded things when doing it the right way would be easier and cheaper.

They are definitely sneaky rascals. I'm thinking some feeder supervisor sits in his office somewhere and says "Hey, we can do this to screw over the employee and circumvent the contract, saving the company some money, which will make me look good to the manager." I guess rolling the dice, hoping nobody catches on is worth the risk to them. If UPS pays this amount, it will at least put them on notice that the drivers are going to pay more attention. Since feeder drivers work around the clock, a lot of things happen that only a small percentage of the rank and file actually see going on, and can put 2 and 2 together. Just my opinion.

 

[oldngray]

They are definitely sneaky rascals. I'm thinking some feeder supervisor sits in his office somewhere and says "Hey, we can do this to screw over the employee and circumvent the contract, saving the company some money, which will make me look good to the manager." I guess rolling the dice, hoping nobody catches on is worth the risk to them. If UPS pays this amount, it will at least put them on notice that the drivers are going to pay more attention. Since feeder drivers work around the clock, a lot of things happen that only a small percentage of the rank and file actually see going on, and can put 2 and 2 together. Just my opinion.

If nobody catches them its a win for them at even if they lose the penalty is just paying what they should have owed in the first place.

 

[retiredTxfeeder]

If nobody catches them its a win for them at even if they lose the penalty is just paying what they should have owed in the first place.

Win-Win for the bad guys.

 

[Cowboy Mac]

They are definitely sneaky rascals. I'm thinking some feeder supervisor sits in his office somewhere and says "Hey, we can do this to screw over the employee and circumvent the contract, saving the company some money, which will make me look good to the manager." I guess rolling the dice, hoping nobody catches on is worth the risk to them. If UPS pays this amount, it will at least put them on notice that the drivers are going to pay more attention. Since feeder drivers work around the clock, a lot of things happen that only a small percentage of the rank and file actually see going on, and can put 2 and 2 together. Just my opinion.

That’s when have one or more good stewards comes in handy.

 

[Coldworld]

for you all that have decent size feeder depts….have they been cutting runs in the last month or so??? And curious if you have lost any sleeper work…. Didn’t they just do an “optimization” of the runs a few months ago???

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

for you all that have decent size feeder depts….have they been cutting runs in the last month or so??? And curious if you have lost any sleeper work…. Didn’t they just do an “optimization” of the runs a few months ago???

Yes.

 

[Trucker Clock]

Yes- zip ties definitely are rated to hold 80,000 plus. Lol. I have some...

Zip ties do not hold the container to the chassis. That job is done by the locking pin. The pins have a latch that keeps the pin from sliding back out, thus unlocking that particular corner. There is very little sliding pressure on this pin. You can pull it out with your hand. It can slide out due to vibration while moving. The latch does not need to be strong at all, just needs to keep the pin from sliding.

This latch is usually in disrepair, or not there at all. The zip tie is used in place of the latch, or in conjunction wit the latch, to keep the locking pin from sliding back out.

 

[burrheadd]

Zip ties do not hold the container to the chassis. That job is done by the locking pin. The pins have a latch that keeps the pin from sliding back out, thus unlocking that particular corner. There is very little sliding pressure on this pin. You can pull it out with your hand. It can slide out due to vibration while moving. The latch does not need to be strong at all, just needs to keep the pin from sliding.

This latch is usually in disrepair, or not there at all. The zip tie is used in place of the latch, or in conjunction wit the latch, to keep the locking pin from sliding back out.

Seriously?

 

[Trucker Clock]

Seriously?

Yep.

I'll use duct tape to hold the container to the chassis if the locking pin is gone. Duct tape is far stronger than a zip tie.

 

[burrheadd]

Pure genius

 

[Trucker Clock]

Pure genius

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Did you even read the post? The post was a joke.

 

[Johney]

for you all that have decent size feeder depts….have they been cutting runs in the last month or so??? And curious if you have lost any sleeper work…. Didn’t they just do an “optimization” of the runs a few months ago???

We have I believe 30 feeder drivers in my old building and they just added two Jax runs and I think 2 Amazon runs(there is a Amazon building close by)

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

@PreTrippin’ you get a feeder job this year?

 

[PreTrippin’]

@PreTrippin’ you get a feeder job this year?

Ha no. Turned down 2… timing didn’t seem right. Maybe next round. Plus I got uneasy when I heard guys were being forced into sleeper. Turns out that’s not exactly true, you just get laid off if you say no

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

Ha no. Turned down 2… timing didn’t seem right. Maybe next round. Plus I got uneasy when I heard guys were being forced into sleeper. Turns out that’s not exactly true, you just get laid off if you say no

Yeah, they can't really force that currently, but its not bad if you come from package. If you come in off the secondary list you go inside at your inside rate, a drop from $42 to $20ish is a little hard to swallow.

 

[ManInBrown]

They are definitely sneaky rascals. I'm thinking some feeder supervisor sits in his office somewhere and says "Hey, we can do this to screw over the employee and circumvent the contract, saving the company some money, which will make me look good to the manager." I guess rolling the dice, hoping nobody catches on is worth the risk to them. If UPS pays this amount, it will at least put them on notice that the drivers are going to pay more attention. Since feeder drivers work around the clock, a lot of things happen that only a small percentage of the rank and file actually see going on, and can put 2 and 2 together. Just my opinion.

I have a different take and maybe I’m wrong. I think building level management actually likes the fact that we’re unionized. Keeps everything orderly. Any decisions to do something like this is above bldg level mgmt. I think circumventing the contract starts at division manager level. They give orders to bldg level management do this, I don’t think management wants to do it. I’m sure there are on roads that don’t like the the fact we’re unionized but I think the majority are indifferent on it.

 

[ManInBrown]

I have a different take and maybe I’m wrong. I think building level management actually likes the fact that we’re unionized. Keeps everything orderly. Any decisions to do something like this is above bldg level mgmt. I think circumventing the contract starts at division manager level. They give orders to bldg level management do this, I don’t think management wants to do it. I’m sure there are on roads that don’t like the the fact we’re unionized but I think the majority are indifferent on it.

An add on, feeder building management definitely cancels certain jobs to screw drivers off. That’s 100% factored in, but that’s not circumventing the contract. If they’re told by someone in the ivory tower three jobs gotta go in a certain start time frame, they’ll factor in who they don’t like.

 

[Yeet]

An add on, feeder building management definitely cancels certain jobs to screw drivers off. That’s 100% factored in, but that’s not circumventing the contract. If they’re told by someone in the ivory tower three jobs gotta go in a certain start time frame, they’ll factor in who they don’t like.

Won’t really affect the driver that much as long as he isn’t super low in seniority. We have multiple runs that go to the same place, start around the same time, and have the same days off. He’ll just bump someone below him who has basically the same run. Now, if his former run had a sweet tractor that he’s losing, that might piss him off.

 

[I have NOT been lurking]

Ha no. Turned down 2… timing didn’t seem right. Maybe next round. Plus I got uneasy when I heard guys were being forced into sleeper. Turns out that’s not exactly true, you just get laid off if you say no

Lucky. I missed mine cause I couldn't get any answers until I asked one driver today. Pissed about it