Bidenomics Failing Big Time?

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Why are republicans trying to will inflation into existence? You guys realize it hurts you, right? Getting your propaganda machine to spin up inflation fears is bad for everyone. But all that matters to you people is “Biden bad!”
 

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Why are republicans trying to will inflation into existence? You guys realize it hurts you, right? Getting your propaganda machine to spin up inflation fears is bad for everyone. But all that matters to you people is “Biden bad!”

We're not trying to will inflation into existence. It is here, and yes, it hurts everybody. There is no propaganda machine at work. Inflation is here because of Biden and the Democrats, and their spending.

Here you go. Summers and CNN, as far left as you can go.

 

bbsam

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Why wouldn’t prices go sharply up coming out of a global pandemic that stagnated economies and caused prices around the world to plunge?

Seems to me that much of this has little to do with economic policy and should pretty much be expected.
 

Wally

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Why are republicans trying to will inflation into existence? You guys realize it hurts you, right? Getting your propaganda machine to spin up inflation fears is bad for everyone. But all that matters to you people is “Biden bad!”
He is in charge. It's all on him and the party in power. If Trump was in office, CNN as we speak would have some Mom crying that she cannot afford a graduation party for her adopted, special needs child, due to inflation. Inflation news would run 24/7!
 

fishtm2001

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We're not trying to will inflation into existence. It is here, and yes, it hurts everybody. There is no propaganda machine at work. Inflation is here because of Biden and the Democrats, and their spending.

Here you go. Summers and CNN, as far left as you can go.

Summers has a poor track record and he is in the minority among economists on this issue.
 

fishtm2001

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"As long as US monetary policy makers, who have high levels of credibility, make it clear that excess inflation will only be tolerated until a clearly defined state is achieved, they prevent long term inflation expectations rising. When you add this to the argument of asymmetric risk, any fiscal stimulus needs to be targeting not just the higher inflation the Fed will tolerate, but higher than that. The Fed should have to raise interest rates in response, and if they didn’t need to you have a fiscal policy failure. (That failure is an all too likely outcome in the Eurozone and the UK.)"


Simon Wren-Lewis, Emeritus Professor of Economics and Fellow of Merton College, University of Oxford
 

bbsam

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He is in charge. It's all on him and the party in power. If Trump was in office, CNN as we speak would have some Mom crying that she cannot afford a graduation party for her adopted, special needs child, due to inflation. Inflation news would run 24/7!
Is Fox now running those stories?
 

Wally

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Summers has a poor track record and he is in the minority among economists on this issue.

He may be in the minority, only because some economists are fearful to come out with a public opinion on the matter. But, of those that did, at least a quarter of the economists believe that inflation is here to stay. I would not blow off 25% of the experts, especially some of the experts who have been right about almost everything in the past.


How about David Roche and CNBC?


Campbell Harvey of Duke University?



For as many stories you can cite against long term inflation, I can cite experts warning of log term inflation. Nobody really knows for sure, but the economists who have almost always been right in the past, I tend to believe. We will find out. I suggest you bookmark this thread, because when inflation stays around, I'd hate to say I told you so.
 

fishtm2001

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He may be in the minority, only because some economists are fearful to come out with a public opinion on the matter. But, of those that did, at least a quarter of the economists believe that inflation is here to stay. I would not blow off 25% of the experts, especially some of the experts who have been right about almost everything in the past.


How about David Roche and CNBC?


Campbell Harvey of Duke University?



For as many stories you can cite against long term inflation, I can cite experts warning of log term inflation. Nobody really knows for sure, but the economists who have almost always been right in the past, I tend to believe. We will find out. I suggest you bookmark this thread, because when inflation stays around, I'd hate to say I told you so.
Inflationary expectations are still pretty well anchored at just over 2%, so it appears that investors aren't too worried about a long-term inflationary spiral.
 

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Why wouldn’t prices go sharply up coming out of a global pandemic that stagnated economies and caused prices around the world to plunge?


Prices did not plunge, except for oil. Prices dropped because inflation went down to about zero. But you are correct, prices should rise up a little to where they were before the pandemic. The problem is that they are going well above where they were,

Typical inflation is around 1-2% We are around 4% now, almost double where it should be.

Seems to me that much of this has little to do with economic policy and should pretty much be expected.

Stick to what you know. You would make a lousy economist. The Biden administration's out of control spending is adding to inflation, although it is not the sole cause. You can't give away trillions of dollars with no way to pay for it and expect to keep inflation in check. And if you raise taxes to pay for it, you also can't keep inflation in check.
 

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Inflationary expectations are still pretty well anchored at just over 2%, so it appears that investors aren't too worried about a long-term inflationary spiral.

Try again

 

bbsam

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Prices did not plunge, except for oil. Prices dropped because inflation went down to about zero. But you are correct, prices should rise up a little to where they were before the pandemic. The problem is that they are going well above where they were,

Typical inflation is around 1-2% We are around 4% now, almost double where it should be.



Stick to what you know. You would make a lousy economist. The Biden administration's out of control spending is adding to inflation, although it is not the sole cause. You can't give away trillions of dollars with no way to pay for it and expect to keep inflation in check. And if you raise taxes to pay for it, you also can't keep inflation in check.
Be honest with what you know. The US government has been giving away trillions with no way to pay for it for decades. And that’s all been with the knowledge of all the brilliant economists who know all about such things.

If we are driving off the cliff and Biden is at the wheel, it’s been a long hard drive to get there with a lot of drivers adding turbos and nitrous at every mile.
 

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Be honest with what you know. The US government has been giving away trillions with no way to pay for it for decades.

You are correct, but the problem is that the government has given away trillions on top of the trillions that they give away in just the last year, and are poised to give away trillions on top of that in the next several months.

Every economist expects this to cause inflation to rise. The big, and unanswered question, is whether this inflation is temporary, or permanent.
 
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