Breaking senior drivers

quad decade guy

Well-Known Member
So you're telling me if you can't retire after 30 years at a high-paying job that you don't have issues with spending money?
You made a declarative statement. Prove it.

There is a difference in can't and NOT WANTING TO....

Your OPINION may vary from mine.

I know people that work until they drop. For wildly different reasons. Every bit millionaires.....

That's what I'm telling you.

Say, define "high-paying job".
 

quad decade guy

Well-Known Member
Back at ya.

I am a 41 year no loss time injury, 31 year safe driver. I take safety personally. Don't lecture me about safety.

Again, I'm still trying to figure out why a person is fired for refusing to exit the street side door and it stuck.

My words stand.

Keep on guessing cause that's all you're doing.
 

Johney

Pineapple King
They were newly created 22.3 jobs and the part timers filed a grievance? The company disagreed or the union did? How far did it go?
It was a long time ago. I just remember all the 22.3 jobs they created went to current full time people and a few part timers thought they should go to them. To be honest I'm not sure how they came to that conclusion it's just always been that way. The last job I had before I retired was a newly created 22.3 shifting position. I took it from a part timer who had it for a few years. He was getting over 8 hours a day as a part timer and someone bitched/grieved that it should be bid 22.3. It got posted and I took it. He wasn't happy he thought it should go to him automatically, needless to say it didn't.
 

oldngray

nowhere special
It was a long time ago. I just remember all the 22.3 jobs they created went to current full time people and a few part timers thought they should go to them. To be honest I'm not sure how they came to that conclusion it's just always been that way. The last job I had before I retired was a newly created 22.3 shifting position. I took it from a part timer who had it for a few years. He was getting over 8 hours a day as a part timer and someone bitched/grieved that it should be bid 22.3. It got posted and I took it. He wasn't happy he thought it should go to him automatically, needless to say it didn't.
UPS did some dirty shuffling around with those jobs. Confused everyone as to the details.

Remember 22.2 jobs? Those were great if you could get one but probably none left now.
 

DELACROIX

In the Spirit of Honore' Daumier
Sadly;

Most people don't really know the differences between "newly created" or existing jobs that were vacated.

Or.... 22.3 jobs that were moved to maintain the sufficient number.... as per the contract.

In our building any vacant 22.3 and 22.2 positions are bid by classification, the 22.3 bids all have a number and year on them. The Company can change the job description and start times but cannot eliminate that full time position.

22.2 positions are protected but are on the same seniority list as the 22.3’s. That is why it is so important for the locals to have copies of completed bids...each one of them have the classification listed and the members who won them.

I asked the question before the forced ratification of the 2018 contract on how these new 22.4 positions were going to be bid...Our local did not know, turns out that they are being posted like extra work, a sign up list. Those positions were filled out mostly by off the street applicants, hardly any seniority part timers were interested or capable of a full time driving position. Originally everybody thought that these 22.4’s were going to be work inside and then drive (preload/driver), didn’t work out that way.
 

Thebrownblob

Well-Known Member
Back at ya.

I am a 41 year no loss time injury, 31 year safe driver. I take safety personally. Don't lecture me about safety.

Again, I'm still trying to figure out why a person is fired for refusing to exit the street side door and it stuck.

My words stand.

Keep on guessing cause that's all you're doing.
It didn’t stick he came back. The panel was less than clear what they wanted, reading comprehension is very important. It’s clear with your attitude you need lots of lecturing 😂. It’s not a shock why no one helped you when you were a package car driver I wouldn’t of helped you either.
 
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UnionStrong

Sorry, but I don’t care anymore.
Back at ya.

I am a 41 year no loss time injury, 31 year safe driver. I take safety personally. Don't lecture me about safety.

Again, I'm still trying to figure out why a person is fired for refusing to exit the street side door and it stuck.

My words stand.

Keep on guessing cause that's all you're doing.
Chuckle
 

542thruNthru

Well-Known Member
My local won a grievance back in 2013 and came to an agreement that the company would maintain 88 22.3 positions in our local that could not be eliminated or moved.
 
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