Building Transfer Advice Needed

[burrheadd]

Decade long lurker here. Need some big life advice from you guys. A large building is closing down near me with 100+ drivers and it has triggered a massive shift in route's to make room for everyone being displaced. My route is moving from a the largest building in our state (250 drivers+) to a smaller center (70 drivers) up north. My commute to the current building is 25 minutes and the smaller center would be 40. (This is without a doubt the largest contributing factor)

I originally thought I wouldn't go but the other 9 driver's that are affected are moving and when other driver's in my building found out I may not go it was like blood in the water. Multiple guys with 25+ years are fighting to see who could win my route if I decide not to follow as it would go up for bid and it would be their ticket out. We are all of course keeping our seniority as this is not a voluntary move. I should mention I do have somewhat of "retirement route". Pure resi 120 miles 110 stops on average. For some of you that's nothing but my hub is in a very urban area where rural route's are quite rare.

If you read all of this thank you and any advice would be appreciated.

Cheers.

How could you write all that and say absolutely nothing
SMH

 

[burrheadd]

My bad I guess my question is WWYD? Also generally everyone is telling me smaller buildings are better than the massive one’s. Do any of you know this to be true?

40 minute commutes not dick
did it for many years

 

[10:30 resi]

The biggest building in your state only has 250 drivers?

 

[I Want To Drive]

The biggest building in your state only has 250 drivers?

Yes. Give or take. There is three centers out of one building. There will be more now with the building closing near by. Probably 300+

 

[KearsargeCoop]

40 minute commutes not dick
did it for many years

I have a 30 minute and I actually enjoy it. No kids talking to me...put on a podcast or some tunes. Drink some coffee.

 

[Wally]

Sounds like you want to stay at your building but you don't want anyone else to have that route.

Route envy? That's like a girlfriend that break up with you then gets crazy jealous when you immediately move on with another model. Man, those death ray eyes!

 

[YourMissingCallTag]

Routes like yours almost don’t exist anymore. I’d follow that route to the new center. 30 minutes extra round trip commute beats getting a garbage route with double the stops anytime, but that’s just my opinion.

 

[UnionStrong]

Routes like yours almost don’t exist anymore. I’d follow that route to the new center. 30 minutes extra round trip commute beats getting a garbage route with double the stops anytime, but that’s just my opinion.

Absolutely

 

[KearsargeCoop]

Routes like yours almost don’t exist anymore. I’d follow that route to the new center. 30 minutes extra round trip commute beats getting a garbage route with double the stops anytime, but that’s just my opinion.

Especially if volume starts dumping. He will be bumping some real Jr driver onto an industrial route cussing himself out.

 

[DriverNerd]

I had this same situation about five years ago. I chose to let my route go and become a utility driver. I was 18 years in at the time, so not anywhere near retirement. To me, that extra driving, twice per day, unpaid, for the next 20 years just wasn't something I wanted to do. To me, the extra driving was just not worth it, which, of course, is a personal decision. Plus giving I had quite a bit of seniority meant being a utility driver wasn't as bad because I wasn't stuck doing the crappy routes. I missed my route quite a bit over the years, but eventually I won another route that's much better than the one I gave up...a route that I live on and much easier overall... a route I never would have had the chance to win if I had followed the route. My advice is not to let it go, it's just to weigh the pros and cons.

 

[MyTripisCut]

It's not so much that as it made me question if I should give everything more thought. I'm the only one not going and guys that want to go are willing to trade away their fantastic route's at the opportunity. I am definitely an overthinker so this has kept me up some nights going over the pro's and con's. I appreciate everyone's insight as it will hopefully help me come to the end result that's best for me long term. I have until May 16th to decide.

One last thing to consider. Are you staying in the same local? Our building closure here had many heading to at least three different locals when they followed the work. Point is, check out those other supplements, because you will become part of that local and language, if they bid yearly or differently than you it could become a problem.

 

[KearsargeCoop]

One last thing to consider. Are you staying in the same local? Our building closure here had many heading to at least three different locals when they followed the work. Point is, check out those other supplements, because you will become part of that local and language, if they bid yearly or differently than you it could become a problem.

One building closure here is asking drivers to move from central states pension to West pension. I advised that steward to make sure that's not gonna really complicate things. Any guidance there?

 

[MyTripisCut]

One building closure here is asking drivers to move from central states pension to West pension. I advised that steward to make sure that's not gonna really complicate things. Any guidance there?

I believe Article 38 states they can stay in the same pension plan. If one offers higher payouts they need to contact both funds and find out how they will be vested and compensated for previous service years before making this decision.

 

[MyTripisCut]

One building closure here is asking drivers to move from central states pension to West pension. I advised that steward to make sure that's not gonna really complicate things. Any guidance there?

I beleive Article 38 states they can stay in the same pension plan. If one offers higher payouts they need to contact both funds and find out how they will be vested and compensated for previous service years before making this decision.

 

[I have NOT been lurking]

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He uses the race/kosher card

 

[Sacrificial Lamb]

40 minute commutes not dick
did it for many years

 

[I Want To Drive]

One last thing to consider. Are you staying in the same local? Our building closure here had many heading to at least three different locals when they followed the work. Point is, check out those other supplements, because you will become part of that local and language, if they bid yearly or differently than you it could become a problem.

Funny that you mentioned that. I would in fact be changing locals. Luckily it's not a yearly bid which honestly once I found out that was even a thing years ago from this forum it immediately sounded terrible to me.

The local I am currently in is the largest in the state and I would be transferring to a much smaller one. I got a hold of one of the guys that works at the building I would be going to and he told me the local is good they just don't fight for everything like the one I currently am in. For example he told me he would file grievances and they would sometimes tell him it's not worth fighting it where as mine would never do something like that. That's basically unheard of. Here it's grieve everything and they will fight everything win or lose.

 

[Wally]

Funny that you mentioned that. I would in fact be changing locals. Luckily it's not a yearly bid which honestly once I found out that was even a thing years ago from this forum it immediately sounded terrible to me.

The local I am currently in is the largest in the state and I would be transferring to a much smaller one. I got a hold of one of the guys that works at the building I would be going to and he told me the local is good they just don't fight for everything like the one I currently am in. For example he told me he would file grievances and they would sometimes tell him it's not worth fighting it where as mine would never do something like that. That's basically unheard of. Here it's grieve everything and they will fight everything win or lose.

Compare the pensions and retirement benefits of the two. Those factors alone if different, for me would make or break what I do.

 

[KearsargeCoop]

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Thanks

 

[ManInBrown]

An extra 30 minute drive daily? You can’t be serious. You follow the route.