Christianity

rickyb

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That's not true.
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vantexan

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You said most. Some didn't but the reason he was killed was he was attracting huge crowds and the Jewish leadership felt threatened. They went to the Romans and made false claims. The Church was established after his death and 25,000 were baptized. That's in a city of 55,000 although there were a lot more in the city at the time for the Feast of Weeks.
 

rickyb

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You said most. Some didn't but the reason he was killed was he was attracting huge crowds and the Jewish leadership felt threatened. They went to the Romans and made false claims. The Church was established after his death and 25,000 were baptized. That's in a city of 55,000 although there were a lot more in the city at the time for the Feast of Weeks.
thats not why he was killed.
 

tourists24

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most people didnt like jesus either when they killed him
There were people who didn't like Jesus yes. One enormous difference here. Jesus was the very son of God himself on earth. You trying to compare yourself to him is ridiculous. You inject the name of Jesus for your own selfish political reasons to justify your actions. All without even being a born again follower yourself.
 

rickyb

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There were people who didn't like Jesus yes. One enormous difference here. Jesus was the very son of God himself on earth. You trying to compare yourself to him is ridiculous. You inject the name of Jesus for your own selfish political reasons to justify your actions. All without even being a born again follower yourself.
christianity is political but christianity gets twisted and it turns us into passive "christians" instead of active participants in the creation of heaven on earth.

it has historically sided with the dominant economic system of the time.
 

tourists24

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christianity is political but christianity gets twisted and it turns us into passive "christians" instead of active participants in the creation of heaven on earth.

it has historically sided with the dominant economic system of the time.
Christians can be political but Christianity is in not political. You use it to further your political ideals. You are the one twisting it to what YOU want to be right. It only becomes twisted when the gospel doesn't coincide with what people want it to be. This is why letting Jesus into your heart and striving to do what you are prayerfully lead to do is so important. It's why so called Christians think since God loves everyone, then what they feel is right can't be wrong.
 

vantexan

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christianity is political but christianity gets twisted and it turns us into passive "christians" instead of active participants in the creation of heaven on earth.

it has historically sided with the dominant economic system of the time.
We are never told to create heaven on Earth. We are told to live our lives in such a way that God will admit us into heaven.
 

rickyb

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Christians can be political but Christianity is in not political. You use it to further your political ideals. You are the one twisting it to what YOU want to be right. It only becomes twisted when the gospel doesn't coincide with what people want it to be. This is why letting Jesus into your heart and striving to do what you are prayerfully lead to do is so important. It's why so called Christians think since God loves everyone, then what they feel is right can't be wrong.
Jesus was political
 

tourists24

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Jesus was political
No... no he wasn't. He had one true purpose and he fulfilled it. "Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's. And to God the things that are God." Exactly what Jesus thought of politics and government. You are on your own path to what you feel is right.
 
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