climate catastrophe

Doublestandards

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Close the thread, there is no man made climate issue.

Study history, the earth heats and cools with added mini variations, the last only about 300 years ago.

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Wait, you mean climate change is a normal occurrence? Are you telling me that I don’t need to give the government all my money to fix this?
Climate change is natural and has happened before, but it’s happening faster now because of humans

And even if it was not man made, if we have the power and knowledge to slow it down, why wouldn’t we?
 

rickyb

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Climate change is natural and has happened before, but it’s happening faster now because of humans

And even if it was not man made, if we have the power and knowledge to slow it down, why wouldn’t we?
bc short term profits are better if we do nothing and we have no care about long term lower standard of living from global warming.
 

Wally

BrownCafe Innovator & King of Puns
bc short term profits are better if we do nothing and we have no care about long term lower standard of living from global warming.

So, it's global warming? Not cooling? We ask because no one on your side calls it that anymore since data was not supporting their theory.

Climate change is natural and has happened before, but it’s happening faster now because of humans

And even if it was not man made, if we have the power and knowledge to slow it down, why wouldn’t we?


Slow what down? What exactly is "happening faster" besides China and India building coal burning power plants left and right?

I ask because scientists told us the earth was cooling, no wait,... no, we are heating, no wait..., it's "climate change", a term that has no meaning.
 
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rickyb

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Slow what down? What exactly is "happening faster" besides China and India building coal burning power plants left and right?

I ask because scientists told us the earth was cooling, no wait,... no, we are heating, no wait..., it's "climate change", a term that has no meaning.
you can easily google it and find the answer is global warming real

 

Thebrownblob

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Slow what down? What exactly is "happening faster" besides China and India building coal burning power plants left and right?

I ask because scientists told us the earth was cooling, no wait,... no, we are heating, no wait..., it's "climate change", a term that has no meaning.
Climate change is going to happen no matter what we do. The government has decided this is a great way to grift.
 

Wally

BrownCafe Innovator & King of Puns
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vantexan

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Climate change is natural and has happened before, but it’s happening faster now because of humans

And even if it was not man made, if we have the power and knowledge to slow it down, why wouldn’t we?
If scientists can determine that human activity is warming the climate with dire consequences, and are working towards feasible solutions then great. But if climate change is used as a way to take away sovereignty and install worldwide socialism, no dice. And a recent example of this was the Biden administration's Green New Deal that was nothing but a liberal wishlist that was all about spending huge sums on socialistic programs but did very little to address climate change problems it was supposed to address.

I get it. You FEEL very strongly about doing the right thing. You believe that the Democratic Party is full of individuals who FEEL strongly also about doing the right thing, whatever that may be. What you don't seem to grasp is the Democratic Party has devolved from the party of Truman and Kennedy into a bunch of grifters grabbing everything not nailed down. They play on your sense of moral outrage to get your vote so that they can continue to grift. And the leadership of special interest groups, whether that's teacher unions or various racial or social minorities, are in on the grift. What you have is a party promising to fight poverty or racism or whatever cause celebre' that's current but never deliver. You can choose to continue to spit in the wind for all the good it'll do you or you can choose to join a populist movement determined to straighten the country out and undo the damage already done before it's too late. Up to you.
 

rickyb

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If scientists can determine that human activity is warming the climate with dire consequences, and are working towards feasible solutions then great. But if climate change is used as a way to take away sovereignty and install worldwide socialism, no dice. And a recent example of this was the Biden administration's Green New Deal that was nothing but a liberal wishlist that was all about spending huge sums on socialistic programs but did very little to address climate change problems it was supposed to address.

I get it. You FEEL very strongly about doing the right thing. You believe that the Democratic Party is full of individuals who FEEL strongly also about doing the right thing, whatever that may be. What you don't seem to grasp is the Democratic Party has devolved from the party of Truman and Kennedy into a bunch of grifters grabbing everything not nailed down. They play on your sense of moral outrage to get your vote so that they can continue to grift. And the leadership of special interest groups, whether that's teacher unions or various racial or social minorities, are in on the grift. What you have is a party promising to fight poverty or racism or whatever cause celebre' that's current but never deliver. You can choose to continue to spit in the wind for all the good it'll do you or you can choose to join a populist movement determined to straighten the country out and undo the damage already done before it's too late. Up to you.
your analysis of democratic party is wrong. they are just more corrupt now.
 

Doublestandards

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If scientists can determine that human activity is warming the climate with dire consequences, and are working towards feasible solutions then great. But if climate change is used as a way to take away sovereignty and install worldwide socialism, no dice. And a recent example of this was the Biden administration's Green New Deal that was nothing but a liberal wishlist that was all about spending huge sums on socialistic programs but did very little to address climate change problems it was supposed to address.

I get it. You FEEL very strongly about doing the right thing. You believe that the Democratic Party is full of individuals who FEEL strongly also about doing the right thing, whatever that may be. What you don't seem to grasp is the Democratic Party has devolved from the party of Truman and Kennedy into a bunch of grifters grabbing everything not nailed down. They play on your sense of moral outrage to get your vote so that they can continue to grift. And the leadership of special interest groups, whether that's teacher unions or various racial or social minorities, are in on the grift. What you have is a party promising to fight poverty or racism or whatever cause celebre' that's current but never deliver. You can choose to continue to spit in the wind for all the good it'll do you or you can choose to join a populist movement determined to straighten the country out and undo the damage already done before it's too late. Up to you.
Nah. One of the biggest reasons I can’t vote consevatism is the denial of science with climate.

It’s not about “socialism”. It’s so far gone where people reject the idea of even simple ideas like widespread solar power

Although maybe some of the sheep will be on board with it once musk starts talking about it again. That would be a good thing atleast. He manipulated you guys into supporting Tesla so that’s a positive at least
 

vantexan

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Nah. One of the biggest reasons I can’t vote consevatism is the denial of science with climate.

It’s not about “socialism”. It’s so far gone where people reject the idea of even simple ideas like widespread solar power

Although maybe some of the sheep will be on board with it once musk starts talking about it again. That would be a good thing atleast. He manipulated you guys into supporting Tesla so that’s a positive at least
You listen to your sounding board. In places like AZ many conservatives embrace solar because it works. But liberals in the Northeast for example want to mandate things like solar in spite of the fact in much of the year there's limited sun. There's more to it than renewables good, cause we say so. Common sense goes a long way.
 
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