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Turdferguson
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I didn't phrase that well. Is the swastika part of that states history?
MAKAVELI
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Which is exactly why the Confederate flag needs to be taken down from any government building.
And how many years has it been flown?
MAKAVELI
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How many years was slavery legal?
Around 70 years or so..Maybe more
Harry Manback
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You didn't have to. The people of "that" state and many others interlink them, just the same.
You ever wondered if, people of the Hindu faith, feel hesitant to display an icon of their religion on account, The Nazi Party perverted it?
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Turdferguson
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None that I have met who do. Would see them on their door step of their houses when I would deliver and talk to them. Before that I honestly did not know the origin of the swastika symbol.
You are spending too much time worrying about the current American flag that nobody is considering getting rid of, despite Rush Limpbaughs latest effort to get ratings.
If you want to be offended, maybe you should be offended that our constitution itself, still contains language relating to the minimizing of blacks to "three fifths" of a person, and slavery.
Article I, Section 2 . . . Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons. . . .
Translation: State representation and taxation will be based on the number of "free Persons" (whites) plus "three fifths of all other Persons" (blacks), implying that blacks are less than full human beings. This passage is generally referred to as the "three-fifths rule."
The passage was changed by Section 2 of the Fourteenth Amendment (ratified July 9, 1868): "Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed."
Article I, Section 9. The Migration or Importation of such Persons as any of the States now existing shall think proper to admit, shall not be prohibited by the Congress prior to the Year one thousand eight hundred and eight, but a Tax or duty may be imposed on such Importation, not exceeding ten dollars for each Person.
Translation: The "Importation" of certain persons (the slave trade) could be stopped after 1808. After that date, Congress could place a tax on anyone brought into the United States as a slave. This passage had a horrific impact on enslaved Africans, because slave traders would sometimes dispose of their "cargo" to avoid paying taxes.
Article IV, Section 2 . . . No Person held to Service or Labour in one State, under the Laws thereof, escaping into another, shall, in Consequence of any Law or Regulation therein, be discharged from such Service or Labour, but shall be delivered up on Claim of the Party to whom such Service or Labour may be due.
Translation: Anyone escaping from bondage into another state would be returned to his or her "owner." Before this law was passed, slaves were free if they could escape from a "slave" state to a "free" state. After the law was passed, enslaved blacks had to escape to Canada or Mexico to secure their freedom.
This passage was changed by Section 1 of the Thirteenth Amendment (ratified December 6, 1865): "Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction."
In addition, amendments to the Constitution were required to enable blacks to serve in the U.S. Armed Forces, to integrate schools and other public facilities, and to enable blacks to exercise their right to vote. Clearly, then, the phrase "all men are created equal" did not apply to blacks, because the "founding fathers" perceived them as being less than human
WHY THESE THINGS ARE NOT removed should be considered "offensive".
TOS.
I Am Jacks Damaged Box
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The South will rise again...but only if pancakes are involved.
On a personal note, I'd love to "gift" our southern States to Mexico and be done with it.
On a personal note, I'd love to "gift" our southern States to Mexico and be done with it.
Yes, you cant erase history, but you can acknowledge it, condemn it, and never give it a place in todays society.
Keeping symbols of racial ignorance, is history that shouldnt be honored, treasured or worshiped.
What "pride" can be found in either a flag displayed on the battlefield, and a movement of christian hate that saw itself being strickly a country of white supremacy and religious ignorance??
Why would anyone be proud of that, if they were not a fellow racist themselves??
TOS.
Harry Manback
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Strictly*
Catatonic
Nine Lives
I thought it reflected your selective interpretation of the facts pretty well.
Catatonic
Nine Lives
Your ancestors were still digging up rotten potatoes in Ireland!
Funny flag though.
My ancestors that fought in the war were Yankees.
A subject not brought up often at family reunions ... sort of like Lord Voldemort.
In fact, I may be the only one that ever brings it up.
wkmac
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I'm from the south and I'm in total agreement with your idea.
You can count on my full support.
I Am Jacks Damaged Box
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Yeah. Basic, Airborne, Ranger (swamp phase not included), and Sniper schools were all at Benning in Georgia. Pretty much a year off my life.
The "local color" leaves much to be desired, but it is a very beautiful state.
brownmonster
Man of Great Wisdom
Had the South succeeded in ceceeding would they be a third world country or a powerhouse today?
I Am Jacks Damaged Box
***** Club Member (can't talk about it)
Never even thought of that until now, great question.
My answer would be middle of the road nation up until they drafted slaves into their military who then promptly defected in droves.
There is no way a society that lazy can truly be on their own for very long.
Harry Manback
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You say Voldemort, I say Bill Blutnach...
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