Contract hidden issues found thus far
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EASY MONEY 101
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I have found the same, But if you look at it closely... The proposed contract targets everyone one way or another.
My personal and more serious concern is that there is language that I am not aware of... still in the process of been written.
if you are in the East and Central regions , You might have some idea of what you are getting in terms of health care.
But for me........... In the Western region is another story..... There is a dead line of Nov 1st ....... 5 months after May's Vote.
What I would like to ask everyone..... How do you feel about allowing your Pension plan been used to Fund a health care for the Western region...
I dont like the idea of anyone touching what I call: The foundation of every upsers retirement, regardless how good it looks in the surface.....this proposal It is rotten .....
Vote NO...I say !
My personal and more serious concern is that there is language that I am not aware of... still in the process of been written.
if you are in the East and Central regions , You might have some idea of what you are getting in terms of health care.
But for me........... In the Western region is another story..... There is a dead line of Nov 1st ....... 5 months after May's Vote.
What I would like to ask everyone..... How do you feel about allowing your Pension plan been used to Fund a health care for the Western region...
I dont like the idea of anyone touching what I call: The foundation of every upsers retirement, regardless how good it looks in the surface.....this proposal It is rotten .....
Vote NO...I say !
hellfire
no one considers UPS people."real" Teamsters.-BUG
Anonymous 10
Guest
i wouldn't go that far but I give up. This contract will pass. Misery loves company. I come to this site to see what's goi g on around the country. For the most part I come to goof off here. I'm going back to goofing off. These brown cafe aren't my local members so what I say and my opinion doesn't matter. Because I can't post everything I know about this I suck. I'm a bad steward? It's not my obligation to state any facts on this site.
The bottom line is I think this contract will pass 70% to 30%. The rest is what it is.
RealPerson
Well-Known Member
If it does, it is a sad day for the UPS worker....
So glad the Louisville, KY Local is unanimously Against the contract, the BA, the 77 Union Stewards, lets hope most of the members are also.
I thank them for not laying down like blind sheep.
Anonymous 10
Guest
There president ran against Hoffa in the last election. He is very bitter.
RealPerson
Well-Known Member
Looks like he should of won!
Catatonic
Nine Lives
That is an interesting bit of information.
Sort of negates that sting.
OK back to square one or I could just wait a couple of months.
Anonymous 10
Guest
Be careful what you wish for. In the heat of the moment something looks good but it isn't what it seems. That guy in local 89 has some real issues.
He had an issue with rational thought. But at least he beat out a girl.
realbrown1
Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.
What's wrong Stink? Don't like women?
I love women. Just not ones with penises.
realbrown1
Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.
Been burned before?
Yes! By Pope when she was campaigning. I told her I'd consider voting for her for a BJ. So she whipped it out. Not what I meant.
realbrown1
Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.
You would say something like that to a woman. No class.
It was her interpretation. I meant Ben and Jerry's (ice cream). So blame her/him.
hyena
Well-Known Member
You have not rested your case. Should the leadership fight for us or for their own personal gain (isn't the reason we have negoitiations with UPS for the workers ?)? Our leadership is not on our side. I agree with you 219 we shouldnt be divided but when our leadership isnt working for us what would you have us do? If you dont want divison we need a change of leadership, we need a spokesman fighting for us, not someone selling us out. Open your eyes sometimes you need to fight (trust me ive done it my whole life). Whats happening now is bs and I also would like to know what makes this ta so great to you?
Let me ask you this, If someone has a grievance in your building, what happens? Is Hoffa expected to come down to deal with that? WE deal with contract issues everyday. The enforcement doesn't start at the top buddy, it starts with the employees. The fact is, as a steward, I've looked at every aspect of these changes over and over that effect my people I look after. I'm there for their protection. I like this TA because of the changes in language. 9.5 will be a cake walk in our building (even for PT casuals), harassment is already being handled in our building by increased intensity of the grievance process, article 6 was clarified by one word, intentional, guys on TAW will make their full rate, a few others that I'm too tired to remember, plus the wages and H&W and pension contributions will bump us up $25,000.
You said the leadership is out for personal gain?It would be more believable had our wages been higher. If I were to fleece workers, I'd focus on wages since our dues is related to that. As far as the language, Hyena, didn't I PM you on contract language already? I'm still waiting for what would be a satisfactory contract for everyone? Some please post it.
You said the leadership is out for personal gain?It would be more believable had our wages been higher. If I were to fleece workers, I'd focus on wages since our dues is related to that. As far as the language, Hyena, didn't I PM you on contract language already? I'm still waiting for what would be a satisfactory contract for everyone? Some please post it.
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