Contract proposals for 2018

[1989]

Try me.

Verification.... is only a phone call away.





-Bug-

Some conversations are 15-20 years old. But those are the most relevant ones since that is the time frame of the western conference transfer language. Call Dan first.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

This is your contract proposal.
I got it.
It appears as though there would also be a possibility that there'd be two tiers of wages if all of these things ran parallel in your proposal.

There will be two tiers but not based upon union membership.

 

[1989]

I propose:

Pension: 25 years 55K
30 years 70K
35 years 90K
40 years 115K

2 votes come contract proposals.

1. For current employees; wage increases, employee treatment, etc

2. For current employees and retirees; health and welfare, pension.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

I propose:

Pension: 25 years 55K
30 years 70K
35 years 90K
40 years 115K

How do you arrive, at those numbers....

Based on the current contribution rate ?



-Bug-

 

[1989]

How do you arrive, at those numbers....

Based on the current contribution rate ?



-Bug-

Western conference 2016 accrual rate for 2080 hours worked was $2800. I know 55K is low for 25 years, but it's a start to boost up others in lame pension plans.

 

[Coldworld]

Western conference 2016 accrual rate for 2080 hours worked was $2800. I know 55K is low for 25 years, but it's a start to boost up others in lame pension plans.

What are drivers who are retiring now with 30 in @western conference collecting per month???

 

[1989]

What are drivers who are retiring now with 30 in @western conference collecting per month???

Probably 60ish @ 5000 a month. A colligue is at 28 years at 55K

 

[Coldworld]

Probably 60ish @ 5000 a month. A colligue is at 28 years at 55K

so with those figures what would someone who works another 10 years get??? 88,000??? Take 10 x 2800 and add 60k.... seem right??

 

[1989]

so with those figures what would someone who works another 10 years get??? 88,000??? Take 10 x 2800 and add 60k.... seem right??

Using those figures, yes. Going forward it will be more. For example 2017 accrual rate will probably be about 3000. In 2015 it was 2600.

 

[Evil]

I propose:

Pension: 25 years 55K
30 years 70K
35 years 90K
40 years 115K

2 votes come contract proposals.

1. For current employees; wage increases, employee treatment, etc

2. For current employees and retirees; health and welfare, pension.

That's why all the pensions with the exception of the Western Conference are failing. In the West we get what we put in. In the Southwest Ryder the contribution is $10.46 per hour for FT and $8.46 for PT employees. At Local 396 we get $.15 cents more so we're at $10.61 per hour. We get paid for hours worked.

 

[Evil]

Western conference 2016 accrual rate for 2080 hours worked was $2800. I know 55K is low for 25 years, but it's a start to boost up others in lame pension plans.

In the Southwest:

2080 X $10.46 = $21,756.80.
Local 396: 2080 x $10.61 = $22,068.80

Note that they have taken $1.25 out of our pension raises so far to pay for healthcare. So the Southwest should be at $11.71. $11.86 at Local 396.

 

[Evil]

What are drivers who are retiring now with 30 in @western conference collecting per month???

The lowest I've heard of PEER 80 is $3900 a month. I know another close friend of mine that gets $4700 a month and one that just retired that said he's getting $59,000 a year after 32 years.

 

[Noreaga]

Blaming the Union, is a cop out by your building manager.




Yep.

There is no sort of reciprocity between plans.

Although, there could be transfers within the region like the

Western Conference. Aside from Locals with their own plan.
The way it was explained to me the company doesn't mind the transfer and will do it.. its the union that's against it.. I spoke to a few of the guys over in the western agreement and they say they can transfer without a issue, but the eastern agreement will not allow it.. I don't understand what the big deal.. again I asked the union rep and he has no answers as well..


-Bug-

Blaming the Union, is a cop out by your building manager.




Yep.

There is no sort of reciprocity between plans.

Although, there could be transfers within the region like the

Western Conference. Aside from Locals with their own plan.



-Bug-

 

[1989]

In the Southwest:

2080 X $10.46 = $21,756.80.
Local 396: 2080 x $10.61 = $22,068.80

Note that they have taken $1.25 out of our pension raises so far to pay for healthcare. So the Southwest should be at $11.71. $11.86 at Local 396.

22,068 x 1.2% = 264.81 x 12 = 3,177

 

[Inthegame]

FT transfers are nearly impossible due to the fact that we do not have a single national pension.

Have you read NM Art 38? Pension contributions (unlike H&W) stay with the original plan one is vested in, so your point fails.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Have you read NM Art 38? Pension contributions (unlike H&W) stay with the original plan one is vested in, so your point fails.

Does it?

So if I work 5 years here and 25 in Texas my 30 year pension will be drawn from NY?

I think you are mistaken.

 

[Jkloc420]

@Future

 

[Inthegame]

Does it?

So if I work 5 years here and 25 in Texas my 30 year pension will be drawn from NY?

I think you are mistaken.

I'm not. You need to read what is written, not what you imagine.
NM At 38 Sec 2... "The Employer agrees to pay the required pension contribution to the employee(s) original pension trust fund as set forth in the trust agreement, provided there is no conflict with any collective bargaining agreement and/or trust agreement."

 

[542thruNthru]

Western conference 2016 accrual rate for 2080 hours worked was $2800. I know 55K is low for 25 years, but it's a start to boost up others in lame pension plans.

Are you saying that the western conference should help out other regions by giving them money?

 

[LeadBelly]

Are you saying that the western conference should help out other regions but giving them money?

It sounds like it...