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Brownslave688

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On that note:

Actually according to long standing human rights standards what they did (lockdowns) was unethical.

One human life cannot be considered more important than another. These are long agreed to international standards. Your right to live is no more important than my right to live and decisions cannot be made based on saving one populace but harming another.
 

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zubenelgenubi

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I believe the fact that food processing facilities have been hot spots at much higher rates than most other industries fits in with the idea of dry air helping spread respiratory viruses. These plants are necessarily held at cooler temperatures, and cooler air holds less moisture. Controlling humidity in indoor spaces is far more likely to help slow the spread, while minimizing disruption of people's lives and infringement of their rights. Why our experts couldn't make those connections in over a year is a question I'll leave to everyone to answer for themselves.
 
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tonyexpress

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I believe the fact that food processing facilities have been hot spots at much higher rates than most other industries fits in with the idea of dry air helping spread respiratory viruses. These plants are necessarily held at cooler temperatures, and cooler air holds less moisture. Controlling humidity in indoor spaces is far more likely to help slow the spread, while minimizing disruption of people's lives and infringement of their rights. Why our experts couldn't make those connections in over a year is a question I'll leave to everyone to answer for themselves.
Yeah, the science and data have not really been what's driving the behavior of those seemingly acting as if they are in charge. Really have to go with what is logical and makes sense to each individual I guess. Information, not miss-information being key. Often times being difficult to obtain...

We have had humidifiers in our home long before COVID and use them mostly in the colder months and do notice the difference. We even take a small portable humidifier with us on trips and use it in dry/cold hotel rooms or cabin staterooms on a cruise.

Someone close to us recently came over and had what they thought was a cold and it ended up being COVID. We decided to get tested about 8 or so days later due to this exposure even though we had no symptoms and came up negative.

I'd have to say we are a proponent of using humidifiers as a way of perhaps missing out on other sicknesses as well.
 

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
Yeah, the science and data have not really been what's driving the behavior of those seemingly acting as if they are in charge. Really have to go with what is logical and makes sense to each individual I guess. Information, not miss-information being key. Often times being difficult to obtain...

We have had humidifiers in our home long before COVID and use them mostly in the colder months and do notice the difference. We even take a small portable humidifier with us on trips and use it in dry/cold hotel rooms or cabin staterooms on a cruise.

Someone close to us recently came over and had what they thought was a cold and it ended up being COVID. We decided to get tested about 8 or so days later due to this exposure even though we had no symptoms and came up negative.

I'd have to say we are a proponent of using humidifiers as a way of perhaps missing out on other sicknesses as well.

The original study, I believe, was looking at flu numbers, but may have included all seasonal respiratory illnesses. They haven't studied why the connection exists, but there are two hypotheses:

One being that the increase in moisture causes more droplets to fall out of suspension in the air and drop to the ground. Sort of like how rain scrubs pollutants out of the air.

The other is that the larger the droplets get after being expelled, the more dilute the virus is in each droplet, lowering the chances of viruses coming into contact with infectable cells. Which would also have a synergistic relationship with hydrated mucus membranes also preventing viruses from contacting infectable cells.

My opinion is that both are plausible, and both probably play a role in decreasing viral spread.
 

Sportello

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The original study, I believe, was looking at flu numbers, but may have included all seasonal respiratory illnesses. They haven't studied why the connection exists, but there are two hypotheses:

One being that the increase in moisture causes more droplets to fall out of suspension in the air and drop to the ground. Sort of like how rain scrubs pollutants out of the air.

The other is that the larger the droplets get after being expelled, the more dilute the virus is in each droplet, lowering the chances of viruses coming into contact with infectable cells. Which would also have a synergistic relationship with hydrated mucus membranes also preventing viruses from contacting infectable cells.

My opinion is that both are plausible, and both probably play a role in decreasing viral spread.
That would explain the high COVID-19 case count in AZ.

PS- Rain doesn't scrub pollutants, it returns them to the water and food.

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cachmeifucan

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The “common sense” comment cracks me up.

Zero data at all to verify it and common sense don’t really go together.
I don't care for Fauci but it does make sense we all know doctors practice medicine not always exact. I wear a mask at work and public to make others feel better. Just got over the Chinese virus aka kung flu aka wuhan red death. And I was wearing a mask but I'm always touching the mask removing it adjusting it getting a new disposable 1. I couldn't smell coffee for 3 days and a slight cold like symptoms. But in December 2019 I was sick as :censored2:kk lost about 20 lbs tested negative for flu
 
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