which countires economies were affected the least?
because i know at least australia and new zealand have basically no cases for some time.
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because i know at least australia and new zealand have basically no cases for some time.
steve keen thinks hes legit. but i agree.
tadpole
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You are right. They did better than us and their economies have been hurt the least. Are you advocating for anything in particular? If not, what’s the point of keep bringing this up?
Wally
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Nobody comes in. No tourist. Also population density is low in those countries.
nonsense they got some big cities there
yea if thats true then we should ask for directions. north america has not done well.
tadpole
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Their strategy doesn’t work once it has spread to the extent that it’s spread elsewhere. And we are not an island either.
Their strategy was catch it early, close borders and aggressively track and trace. You can’t track and trace when there are this many cases. Not to mention north Americans are less likely to accept invasive government surveillance.
why doesnt isolation work?
tadpole
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It can work in conjunction with other strategies in the right conditions.
zubenelgenubi
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No one knows that they've done better, or that their economies have been impacted least. Most of our economic impact has likely been self-inflicted based on terrible decisions, and would have been much, much worse if we had tried to follow Australia's model. Imagine comparing a system that rewards reported cases with money with a system that has pretty much imprisoned its population and destroyed many of their livelihoods in order to "contain" the virus. I, for one, can't see any reason why the results might be skewed. Lol.
Or perhaps, as many other Asian countries have good looking numbers, they may have had this virus circulating much earlier and we're seeing results in those countries now that we will be seeing in the rest of the world in the coming year. The fact that anyone is trying to draw conclusions from any of these statistics is completely absurd. There is zero control for any of the myriad variables that might be involved.
tadpole
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They have managed to keep their population almost completely free from Covid. Thus, they are not currently locked down (except their borders) and their economy isn’t handcuffed. Whatever they did, it worked for them or they just got lucky. They’re not out of the woods yet, though. And I in no way advocate taking up a strategy such as theirs, even if I thought it was possible for that strategy to work here.
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What's their plan..... wear masks.
Idiots.
zubenelgenubi
I'm a star
Again, that is an assumption. The best you can say is that their testing data have shown no or little virus within the population during such and such a time. Says nothing about the community spread before testing started.
tadpole
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True. I don’t know anything for certain. But it seems the likeliest to me that they are ahead of Covid right now.
Anyway, the point I was trying to make is that it is too late and too costly to try for zero Covid in North America.
zubenelgenubi
I'm a star
It's all about incentives. When you have an incentive to report positive cases in one system, and you have a disincentive in another, there are bound to be inconsistencies. That's just one of many, many variables that make it unreasonable to assume that Australia's actions had any effect at all.
if thats true then why even compare countries on end corona virus website?
ur argument doesnt make sense.
i was on youtube and i saw headlines for videos saying i believe in victoria Australia they were just finishing a 5 day lock down or were on a lock down. this is happening while the country has almost no cases. so what they are probably doing is aggressively and proactively fighting any cases that appear.
where i live cases are still high but not all time high, and for example skiing is open...i know parks are open too. ppl cant self regulate. my mom cant self regulate. my bro cant self regulate.
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