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[tadpole]

 

[rickyb]

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or if theres not...

theyve been ripping up the constitution since at least w bush if not longer.

 

[zubenelgenubi]

no im saying that website with all the graphs showing the corona virus cases is not a conspiracy for bigger govt lol.

You asked why they should do it at all. I explained why. It is a way to sway people with extremely low resolution understanding of cause and effect to support increased government power. If they really cared about "ending corona" they would explore all the factors involved. But they don't care about ending corona, or they are too incompetent to share meaningful information that would actually effect corona spread.

you are the wealthiest country on earth. you can afford it. it actually costs more not doing these things than doing it.

That's a non-answer that ignores how we became the wealthiest nation. It wasn't by doing the stuff they were doing in Europe.

doing the same task over again is boring also. whats efficient is making components upgradable, and minimizing pollution. not sure what efficiency has to do with putting your ideas into action. its probably most efficient to avoid the task altogether.

Competence isn't necessarily about doing the same task over and over. Most repetitive tasks are probably better off automated anyway.

interesting take on democracy.

If you care at all about liberty, that's the only take on democracy.

 

[tadpole]

or if theres not...

theyve been ripping up the constitution since at least w bush if not longer.

I assume you’re referring to the patriot act. So you opposed the patriot act, I presume because if it was an infringement on peoples rights. Am I correct on that? Even though it could help save some lives and prevent a terrorist attack?

But now you are saying you want the government to do what “the experts” say will be best. To force people to comply with “the experts’” plan.

 

[rickyb]

I assume you’re referring to the patriot act. So you opposed the patriot act, I presume because if it was an infringement on peoples rights. Am I correct on that? Even though it could help save some lives and prevent a terrorist attack?

But now you are saying you want the government to do what “the experts” say will be best. To force people to comply with “the experts’” plan.

no its bigger than the patriot act. what presidents can and cant do.

yea we can vote in teh expert too after all its democracy. but i think we should really just copy whichever country has lowest corona cases and done well with the economy which looks like australia

 

[tadpole]

no its bigger than the patriot act. what presidents can and cant do.

yea we can vote in teh expert too after all its democracy. but i think we should really just copy whichever country has lowest corona cases and done well with the economy which looks like australia

Now you’re onto something. Presidents and governors shouldn’t have the power to make executive orders. Perhaps that’s the most important thing to push for right now. If we were able to change that, I feel like we’d be in a better position.

 

[zubenelgenubi]

Now you’re onto something. Presidents and governors shouldn’t have the power to make executive orders. Perhaps that’s the most important thing to push for right now. If we were able to change that, I feel like we’d be in a better position.

EO's have their place, but that is mainly to be a check on legislative power. The executive can tell law enforcement which laws they are to enforce and prosecute under. Most anything beyond that is overreach.

 

[Wally]

Bad news for Democrats enjoying locking America down.

Opinion | We’ll Have Herd Immunity by April

Covid cases have dropped 77% in six weeks. Experts should level with the public about the good news.

www.wsj.com

 

[zubenelgenubi]

Bad news for Democrats enjoying locking America down.

Opinion | We’ll Have Herd Immunity by April

Covid cases have dropped 77% in six weeks. Experts should level with the public about the good news.

www.wsj.com

"Many experts, along with politicians and journalists, are afraid to talk about herd immunity. The term has political overtones because some suggested the U.S. simply let Covid rip to achieve herd immunity. That was a reckless idea."

No one seriously proposed "let(ting) covid rip". The sensible suggestion was to focus resources on protecting the most vulnerable populations while allowing everyone else with low risk go about business as usual, or taking the precautions they deemed necessary.

I like when people talk realistically about the data, but I hate it when they throw in random little bits of nonsense like this. Like they still feel they have to pay homage to the king of established medicine/public health.

 

[tadpole]

Bad news for Democrats enjoying locking America down.

Opinion | We’ll Have Herd Immunity by April

Covid cases have dropped 77% in six weeks. Experts should level with the public about the good news.

www.wsj.com

Oh, don’t worry. They will find a way to keep us locked down and masked up.

 

[Wally]

Time to get the schools open.

 

[tadpole]

"Many experts, along with politicians and journalists, are afraid to talk about herd immunity. The term has political overtones because some suggested the U.S. simply let Covid rip to achieve herd immunity. That was a reckless idea."

No one seriously proposed "let(ting) covid rip". The sensible suggestion was to focus resources on protecting the most vulnerable populations while allowing everyone else with low risk go about business as usual, or taking the precautions they deemed necessary.

I like when people talk realistically about the data, but I hate it when they throw in random little bits of nonsense like this. Like they still feel they have to pay homage to the king of established medicine/public health.

They have to be careful not to anger the wokes who can get you cancelled.

 

[El Correcto]

if thats true then why even compare countries on end corona virus website?

ur argument doesnt make sense.

i was on youtube and i saw headlines for videos saying i believe in victoria Australia they were just finishing a 5 day lock down or were on a lock down. this is happening while the country has almost no cases. so what they are probably doing is aggressively and proactively fighting any cases that appear.

where i live cases are still high but not all time high, and for example skiing is open...i know parks are open too. ppl cant self regulate. my mom cant self regulate. my bro cant self regulate.

Sure they can, but your socialist brain demands compliance from them. You just don’t like the way they self regulate.

 

[It will be fine]

Sure they can, but your socialist brain demands compliance from them. You just don’t like the way they self regulate.

People are stupid. They make tons of irrational self-destructive choices. Left alone we’d be back to hunter gathering in a generation.

 

[El Correcto]

People are stupid.

So you want to surrender individual rights and forfeit a large portion of your earnings so the centralized planners in DC(people) can dictate how you live your life for you... We should also rig the system so all the stupid people determine by majority vote who gets to run our lives for us..

Do you not see why individual liberty should always trump the whims of the mob? If anything you should be libertarians if you truly believed that.

 

[rickyb]

So you want to surrender individual rights and forfeit a large portion of your earnings so the centralized planners in DC(people) can dictate how you live your life for you... We should also rig the system so all the stupid people determine by majority vote who gets to run our lives for us..

Do you not see why individual liberty should always trump the whims of the mob? If anything you should be libertarians if you truly believed that.

im in favor of democracy and agree with it will be fine that quite often ppl make irrational decisions

 

[rickyb]

Sure they can, but your socialist brain demands compliance from them. You just don’t like the way they self regulate.

dont drink the water in texas!

 

[Babagounj]

Right or wrong....

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[BrownFlush]

People are stupid. They make tons of irrational self-destructive choices. Left alone we’d be back to hunter gathering in a generation.

And there you have it folks.
The elitist mentality in one comment.

 

[El Correcto]

im in favor of democracy and agree with it will be fine that quite often ppl make irrational decisions

So let’s concentrate decision making in the hands of a few people over spreading out among many people.
This is how people end up starving to death in famines.