Discipline for send agains.

[Dr.Brownz]

The triangle method still applies with or without Orion.

Never heard of the triangle method; is that an east coast thing?

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Never heard of the triangle method; is that an east coast thing?

It's a national thing.

 

[Dr.Brownz]

It's a national thing.

Never heard that here

 

[JL 0513]

Never heard of "the triangle method", I'm in the Northeast. What is that Upstate?

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Never heard of "the triangle method", I'm in the Northeast. What is that Upstate?

Seriously? The triangle method is when you attempt to indirect by going to the houses on both sides of the address and the one directly across the street.

 

[oldngray]

Probably newer drivers never heard of the old methods where you needed to try to indirect packages instead of just DR everything.

 

[JL 0513]

Probably newer drivers never heard of the old methods where you needed to try to indirect packages instead of just DR everything.

Yup, I've never indirected anything and never will unless left instructions.

 

[govols019]

If you still use the triangle method then you don't have enough work on your car.

 

[Whatbrownwontdoforyou]

Seriously? The triangle method is when you attempt to indirect by going to the houses on both sides of the address and the one directly across the street.

With everything being dr they don't teach the triangle method to new hires

 

[GetTacosOrDieTrying]

I use the octagon method. Stop what im doing and have lunch.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

I use the octagon method. Stop what im doing and have lunch.

How long do you think you would last in the octagon with Roussy?

 

[GetTacosOrDieTrying]

How long do you think you would last in the octagon with Roussy?

Depends on what we were doing.

 

[Do it by the book]

I worked at UPS for 25+ years in operations management, sounds like "send agains" are the new flavor of the month. If there is one thing I learned long ago UPS will measure something or some metric just to say they are measuring it. I say if you made your two "valid alternate delivery attempts" per the methods (not just slapped up a delivery notice on the front door and then left as fast as you can) it comes back tomorrow. Now we all know that this scenario happens only 10% of the time. If you Sup or center manager says re attempt then re- attempt at $45+ per hour. Pretty soon they will be telling you send agains are OK again.

Don't fight the beast, do what he wants and laugh all the way to the bank

 

[Thegameisrigged]

Makes sense! Good advice! Copy!

 

[retiredTxfeeder]

Don't fight the beast, do what he wants and laugh all the way to the bank[/QUOTE
That's the way to do it. Make the boss tell you what he wants you to do. Be sure it is in writing (on ivis or cell text) or in front of other drivers who can back you up. When the over allowed goes up, you say hey, just working as YOU instructed. You got to play the game. In my 38 years, I'd say reached the title of ninja master. lol.

 

[JL 0513]

Upstate, what is the purpose of indirecting, unless there's a note left by the customer to have a neighbor sign? If something needs a sig, someone living at the address signs, not a neighbor. In what scenario would one indirect a package without special instructions?

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

People don't even know their neighbors anymore.
I don't bother attempting a residential indirect unless it's a NI3.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Upstate, what is the purpose of indirecting, unless there's a note left by the customer to have a neighbor sign? If something needs a sig, someone living at the address signs, not a neighbor. In what scenario would one indirect a package without special instructions?

Signature required pkgs can be indirected.

Adult signature required pkgs cannot.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

People don't even know their neighbors anymore.
I don't bother attempting a residential indirect unless it's a NI3.

What is so special about the third attempt?

 

[upschuck]

What is so special about the third attempt?

Most grounds are RTS' d after third attempt.