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Do I really need a union for a 2% raise ???
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Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
We not encourage other areas to bring their language up on par with ours?
Instead you tell them there's 2 choices and they both suck.
Bubblehead
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I "liked" this post, because it's the first evidence that I have seen that you hear anything, anybody else has had to say???You told me you did not have any two tier drivers there in Canada.
LagunaBrown
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That’s part of the problem. They have been in for 20 years and nobody cared. Now all of the sudden you want and think you can to take the language out. Tbe contract is not even being negotiated that way! How noble of you but your 20 years late to the party don’t act like you give a
. We have made it work to our advantage by getting higher progression rates than your RPCD’s. Your RPCD’s start at $18 and our guys get $27 if they use it.
LagunaBrown
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What?
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
LiarThat’s part of the problem. They have been in for 20 years and nobody cared. Now all of the sudden you want and think you can to take the language out. Tbe contract is not even being negotiated that way! How noble of you but your 20 years late to the party don’t act like you give a
LagunaBrown
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Show me where the contract is negotiating out any of the two tier drivers that already exist. You throw around the word liar when you in fact are one.
BrownRecycler
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Read the contract. Then, read it again. And, again, and again. If they paying more for being in the company longer, that's two tier.
LagunaBrown
Well-Known Member
Your comprehension skills suck. I been telling you guys they already exist and you are not voting to take them out.
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
Voting to keep them from being NATIONWIDE
Benben
Working on a new degree, Masters in BS Detecting!
I have read this 4 times.
STOP SNIFFING GLUE, YOU ARE GOING TO DO PERMANENT DAMAGE!
Only FT here also. Guess its not so, "everywhere else" huh?
GLUE......put it down, it will be ok. You can do it! Just let it go.
Benben
Working on a new degree, Masters in BS Detecting!
Which s it ass hat? last week you were saying a yes vote gets rid of your imaginary 2 tier structure. Now you are saying a yes vote does "not" take them out?
You are posting at 8am on a Sunday. Go to church, find Jesus and get help with your glue issues!
BrownRecycler
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Oh am sooooooo sorry but let me remind you how much you put one word together with another different word when accusing random folks about tier 2 topic
Neanderthal
Well-Known Member
In a two-tier system newly hired employees would never achieve the rate that any of us work under now.
Any way you chop it up their is a Classification Tier System currently. There’s no way you can say there is not, the supplements dictate what the rates are.
Here is the difference: the 22.4 will be earning full-time pension contributions and health and welfare, which exceeds what the part-time employees get working in classifications that are temporarily full-time hours.
This is a positive for the areas that have troubled plans that will see a resurgence of contributions at a higher rate.
This is a positive for part-timers that want to achieve a higher paid day working part of the day driving or part of the day in a sort.
Maybe it could all be done at the full RPCD rate for all, but it sounds like our bargaining teams did not have access to achieve that. The compromise in all of this is now all package car drivers, regardless of seniority have the ticket to qualify for 9.5 penalties regardless of their years of service.
Any way you chop it up their is a Classification Tier System currently. There’s no way you can say there is not, the supplements dictate what the rates are.
Here is the difference: the 22.4 will be earning full-time pension contributions and health and welfare, which exceeds what the part-time employees get working in classifications that are temporarily full-time hours.
This is a positive for the areas that have troubled plans that will see a resurgence of contributions at a higher rate.
This is a positive for part-timers that want to achieve a higher paid day working part of the day driving or part of the day in a sort.
Maybe it could all be done at the full RPCD rate for all, but it sounds like our bargaining teams did not have access to achieve that. The compromise in all of this is now all package car drivers, regardless of seniority have the ticket to qualify for 9.5 penalties regardless of their years of service.
Kamikaze
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No, I think you should start a decertification campaign. That way UPS can pay us what they think we’re worth not what the Teamsters believe we’re worth! #Voteyes
LagunaBrown
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You are the one sniffing glue.... I always said if you don't already have a two tier driver then I would vote no. You are so high you want to screw our members for you. You are so unreasonable and hard headed to realize you can vote no and I can vote yes because we get other perks you don't like a $9 higher pay in RPCD progression, weekly guarantees and raising the retiree cap from $500,000 to unlimited.
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LagunaBrown
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You are keeping the lower paid two tier driver in the areas that already have them which is 80% of the nation.
zubenelgenubi
I'm a star
And you don't seem to understand union solidarity. We need to all vote no until we all get a good deal.
LagunaBrown
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All you guys say is vote no and don't listen to other areas. PERIOD. Calling names and bulling then saying solidarity is BS.
