Does anyone still believe the 9/11 story the government told us?

Smh. It simply couldn’t be a terrorist organization that hated the USA, right? The fact that airport security at that time wasn’t nearly as strict as it is today. We were caught off guard and didn’t think we could be attacked.
You’ve got it completely backwards. The terrorist organization is right here at home.

The so called airport security measures and the patriot act which were both egregious violations of your rights was the objective. Where are these terrorist groups today pray tell? Gone with the wind the narrative is no longer needed
 

vantexan

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The landing gear only knocks off a max of 6 foot.. that still means your are dealing with a 39foot tall price of metal. Nothing in that video I linked is even close to 39 foot..
No you aren't. The top of the tail sticks way up above the plane. The actual height of the fuselage bottom to top probably isn't much more than 15-18 ft max.
 
You're not paying attention. He's saying that wasn't a jet that hit the Pentagon but a missile. All to cover up misdeeds. So where'd the actual flight go? What happened to the passengers and crew?
Well you’re right that wouldn’t make any sense. But that assumes there was passengers and a crew. We really don’t have any idea as to what happened with the pentagon or the alleged plane that wound up in a field in western pa. The idea that some cave dwellers took over commercial flights with just box cutters no less and managed to fly these planes perfectly into buildings to destroy them entirely twice is so farfetched it’s ridiculous. And of course conveniently the one that was supposed to hit the White House is the one that was unsuccessful
 
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vantexan

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Well you’re right that wouldn’t make any sense. But that assumes there was passengers and a crew. We really don’t have any idea as to what happened with the pentagon or the alleged plane that wound up in a field in western pa. The idea that some cave dwellers took over commercial flights with just box cutters no less and managed to fly these planes perfectly into buildings to destroy them entirely twice is so farfetched it’s ridiculous. And of course conveniently the one that was supposed to hit the White House is the one that was unsuccessful
The one that crashed in PA was the one intended for the White House I believe. And Saudis aren't cave dwellers. And they got training here in the States to fly those planes. The flight school instructor was concerned when they had no interest in learning how to land. Reports were made but not shared or followed up on. All of this is well documented. And box cutters are very effective in close quarters and pilots had no weapons to defend themselves after being taken by surprised. The PA crash was because passengers tried to take back the plane. We do a disservice to the memories of all who died that day saying it was our government who killed them. And I would be the first to say put Bush and every last one of them up against a wall and shoot them if real proof came out.
 
The one that crashed in PA was the one intended for the White House I believe. And Saudis aren't cave dwellers. And they got training here in the States to fly those planes. The flight school instructor was concerned when they had no interest in learning how to land. Reports were made but not shared or followed up on. All of this is well documented. And box cutters are very effective in close quarters and pilots had no weapons to defend themselves after being taken by surprised. The PA crash was because passengers tried to take back the plane. We do a disservice to the memories of all who died that day saying it was our government who killed them. And I would be the first to say put Bush and every last one of them up against a wall and shoot them if real proof came out.
It’s the opposite you’re insulting their memory by not bringing the real killers to justice. How directly the government were involved is up for debate but there was involvement. Their end which is fear and control justifies the means. Why do you think they called it the patriot act? Because it was gonna be used to come after patriots. Our government has no problem whatsoever with murder that can be exploited for political gain

Real proof may not ever happen in this life (although I think they will get their comeuppance). But most definitely God sees the truth but waits. By pretending it was the random work of some extremists half a world away you’re just deluding yourself. The extremists are and have always been right here in Washington
 
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I mean ask yourself if it’s SUCH a ridiculous conspiracy theory why is it taboo to have any discussion about the dozens of things they told us that make zero sense? Why shut down a debate? Why shroud everything in such mystery
 

newfie

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What happened to the passengers and crew of that flight then? The government landed the plane in the Nevada desert and executed them?
 
It’s a bogus story but can you imagine what a waste it was in retrospect for those people on flight 93 was it to save the White House ? If it was today I’d say please just burn all of Washington down and do us a favor so we can start fresh

I guess that’s why our enemies abroad don’t bother attacking us there’s no need
 

vantexan

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It’s the opposite you’re insulting their memory by not bringing the real killers to justice. How directly the government were involved is up for debate but there was involvement. Their end which is fear and control justifies the means. Why do you think they called it the patriot act? Because it was gonna be used to come after patriots. Our government has no problem whatsoever with murder that can be exploited for political gain

Real proof may not ever happen in this life (although I think they will get their comeuppance). But most definitely God sees the truth but waits. By pretending it was the random work of some extremists half a world away you’re just deluding yourself. The extremists are and have always been right here in Washington
If you don't have real proof then what do you have? Emotion. You want to believe. You believe the government is inherently evil. You listen to those voices that feed on that emotion. Validate what you already believe. But with no proof. Come up with some real proof.
 

vantexan

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I mean ask yourself if it’s SUCH a ridiculous conspiracy theory why is it taboo to have any discussion about the dozens of things they told us that make zero sense? Why shut down a debate? Why shroud everything in such mystery
It is a conspiracy theory until you have proof of a conspiracy. Do you think the U.S. exists in a vacuum? Al-Qaeda was responsible for thousands of deaths worldwide before 9-11. And not just against Christians. They've killed plenty in India. And why do you think China has over a million Uighurs in concentration camps? They're Muslims and they started acting up at the same time that Al-Qaeda was committing hundreds of terrorist acts worldwide. China shut it down. Japan won't let Muslims move to their country. But somehow you're questioning a terrorist act in the U.S. as highly unlikely in spite of their track record. They carried out the ultimate terrorist act against their Great Satan.
 

vantexan

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Well we know some planes did crash at least into the twin towers. Now whether they were commercial flights is very questionable
Again, what happened to the passengers and crew if those weren't commercial airliners? What about the cellphone calls of passengers? Do you know why those specific flights were picked? They were direct flights from east to west coasts. So they carried a full tank of fuel. Made them bigger bombs. Jets on shorter flights usually don't have full tanks because the extra weight hurts their fuel economy. Pretty smart for cave dwellers huh?
 

PT Car Washer

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Again, what happened to the passengers and crew if those weren't commercial airliners? What about the cellphone calls of passengers? Do you know why those specific flights were picked? They were direct flights from east to west coasts. So they carried a full tank of fuel. Made them bigger bombs. Jets on shorter flights usually don't have full tanks because the extra weight hurts their fuel economy. Pretty smart for cave dwellers huh?
They also choose early morning flights when the planes would have less passengers. Flight 93 was delayed taking off and the passengers learned about the other attacks and decided to fight back.
 
Again, what happened to the passengers and crew if those weren't commercial airliners? What about the cellphone calls of passengers? Do you know why those specific flights were picked? They were direct flights from east to west coasts. So they carried a full tank of fuel. Made them bigger bombs. Jets on shorter flights usually don't have full tanks because the extra weight hurts their fuel economy. Pretty smart for cave dwellers huh?
Which is how you know it wasn’t them. It was our government attacking its own people. Whether the planes hit or not is irrelevant. A controlled demolition brought down the buildings
 
It is a conspiracy theory until you have proof of a conspiracy. Do you think the U.S. exists in a vacuum? Al-Qaeda was responsible for thousands of deaths worldwide before 9-11. And not just against Christians. They've killed plenty in India. And why do you think China has over a million Uighurs in concentration camps? They're Muslims and they started acting up at the same time that Al-Qaeda was committing hundreds of terrorist acts worldwide. China shut it down. Japan won't let Muslims move to their country. But somehow you're questioning a terrorist act in the U.S. as highly unlikely in spite of their track record. They carried out the ultimate terrorist act against their Great Satan.
Al qaeda is a Mcguffin. A creation of the 5 eyes. (USA UK Canada Australia and New Zealand) It doesn’t exist, it never did and it was a big misdirection play to distract you from your own government at war with you. Wake up to reality ffs. Where is “Al Qaeda” today?? Where were they ten years ago? You’d think they’d be planning another attack. No. Gone. No longer needed

Al qaeda may as well be called covid. Something to scare you and distract you from what the real threat is
 
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Ou812fu

Polishing toilet bowls since 1966.
What happened to the passengers and crew of that flight then? The government landed the plane in the Nevada desert and executed them?
No idea, if you can't figure out what this video is showing you. Then you probably need to find an explosion expert..


 
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