SKAGITDRIVER
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you report to work and if that work wants you to line up and walk through a guard shack/metal detector fine but pay me for it
Does Weingarten Rights apply at the guard shack
- Thread starter thelus
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cachsux
Wah
Don`t want to go through a guard shack on your way into work? The McD`s is down the street to the left.
cino321
Well-Known Member
Agreed.
stevetheupsguy
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Good point!
soberups
Pees in the brown Koolaid
The word that is missing in all of this...is "reasonable".
UPS has every right to implement reasonable security procedures in order to reduce theft.
I have every right to not be "unreasonably" delayed coming to and from work on my time.
The problem...in my facility at least...is that UPS does it half-assed and on the cheap. Our guard shack is undersized and understaffed. It was never designed to contain a metal detector; the walls and doors are metal and every time you open the door it sets the detector off. In the AM there is only one guard to search both the incoming drivers and the outgoing preloaders.
As employees we have a responsibility to show up to work on time and be ready to pass thru security. As an employer, UPS has the responsibility to adequately design and staff its security to prevent unreasonable delays.
UPS has every right to implement reasonable security procedures in order to reduce theft.
I have every right to not be "unreasonably" delayed coming to and from work on my time.
The problem...in my facility at least...is that UPS does it half-assed and on the cheap. Our guard shack is undersized and understaffed. It was never designed to contain a metal detector; the walls and doors are metal and every time you open the door it sets the detector off. In the AM there is only one guard to search both the incoming drivers and the outgoing preloaders.
As employees we have a responsibility to show up to work on time and be ready to pass thru security. As an employer, UPS has the responsibility to adequately design and staff its security to prevent unreasonable delays.
thelus
Package Car Whipping Boy
i this this topic has way of the track. the topic is about if weigarten applys to UPS managers asking questions at the guard shack. we have always had (going out) to be searched at ups addison but this was done by Silverhawk Security and not ups management. now ups management has placed themselves in the guard shack and have been harassing people. but i do like the idea of getting paid to stand inline for a security check
cachsux
Wah
if mgmt is there and wants to start playing talky- talky ask if you`re on the clock. if not they can wait or put you on. i would ask for a steward if it headed in the direction that one was needed.i this this topic has way of the track. the topic is about if weigarten applys to UPS managers asking questions at the guard shack. we have always had (going out) to be searched at ups addison but this was done by Silverhawk Security and not ups management. now ups management has placed themselves in the guard shack and have been harassing people. but i do like the idea of getting paid to stand inline for a security check
grgrcr88
No It's not green grocer!
i this this topic has way of the track. the topic is about if weigarten applys to UPS managers asking questions at the guard shack. we have always had (going out) to be searched at ups addison but this was done by Silverhawk Security and not ups management. now ups management has placed themselves in the guard shack and have been harassing people. but i do like the idea of getting paid to stand inline for a security check
Are you on the clock when all this is going on, if not tell the manager to take a hike, better yet just completely ignore him like he's not there. If you are on the clock and you could or feel like you could be haeding to discipline from the discusion, ask for a steward.
brownIEman
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What an awesome message to send to the hourlies working in the hub. You need more hours this week? Just call in a threat, UPS will have to pay you extra time for the effort they put into keeping you safe from your own threat.
Awesome. Just awesome.
Bubblehead
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brownIEman
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OK, I will take you through it step by step...
Over said they should be paid to wait in line for the extra security to check in due to the threat...
Cach replied it was a bit of a grey relating to what a normal day to day delay might be...
To which you replied that there was no grey area, and that absolutely the grieving to get pay for standing in line for the extra security due to the threat is absolutely the right thing to do. In essance you are arguing it is absolutely morally incumbent on UPS to pay you for the time it take UPS to make sure you are safe from a phoned in threat.
Yes I can.
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