Excessive Break "Saturday Air Driving"

[sandwich]

You can punch in at any time before your start time-----your paid day will not change.

Right so I was asking what is he getting ready? My guess is he is lining up his stops. Off the clock.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

You can punch in at any time before your start time-----your paid day will not change.

You can not punch in until 10 hours from your last punch out.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Right so I was asking what is he getting ready? My guess is he is lining up his stops. Off the clock.

People do that?

 

[sandwich]

People do that?

I forgot how limited you are when it comes to ups knowledge on different shifts. Yes upstate, Saturday air in some cases needs to be lined up by the driver.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

I forgot how limited you are when it comes to ups knowledge on different shifts. Yes upstate, Saturday air in some cases needs to be lined up by the driver.

You need to fine tune your sarcasm meter.

 

[sandwich]

You need to fine tune your sarcasm meter.

Sometimes I can't tell with you.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Sometimes I can't tell with you.

That means I am doing it right.

 

[sandwich]

But to the o.p. stop working off the clock. You are losing an hour of pay each month.

 

[104Feeder]

You should definitely grieve that. As Article 40 states & was quoted earlier, you should not have been waiting for packages off the clock. You weren't just sitting around, you are "engaged in waiting". It is reasonable to ask you to take a break in that time period if they knew the delay would be an hour or more. Every contract has prescribed 1/2 or hour unpaid lunch periods, not 'however long they deem necessary to avoid paying you". They employer should have invoked the language to delay your start time up to 2 hours when they knew the plane was going to be late as they apparently did prior to you starting.

 

[Ed O'Ryan]

Art. 40 sec 1 subsection (h) (4) "No exception air driver shall be required by the employer to wait at a center for packages off the clock."

This.

 

[Takeback251]

This guy sounds like a real A-hole. Grow a set!!

 

[Griffin1820]

At that point they most likely would have suspended the operation and delivered the Saturday air along with the regular air on Monday.

They didnt. Lol I ended up getting a 12 hour day with 4 hours worked. They wasn't happy when I told them to change my diad start time because they was going to have to pay me for the whole day or I would have to grieve it.

 

[Griffin1820]

But to the o.p. stop working off the clock. You are losing an hour of pay each month.

I'm not I always show up 30 minutes early get my stuff put in my truck punch in my diad and go enjoy a nice dump until it's time to roll.

 

[Griffin1820]

You should definitely grieve that. As Article 40 states & was quoted earlier, you should not have been waiting for packages off the clock. You weren't just sitting around, you are "engaged in waiting". It is reasonable to ask you to take a break in that time period if they knew the delay would be an hour or more. Every contract has prescribed 1/2 or hour unpaid lunch periods, not 'however long they deem necessary to avoid paying you". They employer should have invoked the language to delay your start time up to 2 hours when they knew the plane was going to be late as they apparently did prior to you starting.

My steward confirmed with the BA and we was told that we don't have to take a break at all unless we choose to take a break. 1 hour is allowed and 10 minutes is paid but they are strictly voluntary.