Express Pay Increase?

[UncleYunqi]

how long are typical CCA to regular conversions at your station?. Did you get off ur probation? Did you hit your 1 year reappointment break yet?

I wouldnt trust that schedule or those hrs at fedex, the managers are notorious for not be forthright. Thats a reponse/pickup route and the tail end hours may not be there unless u live in a large business area or large city.U may be looking at 6-7pm end time in reality Some box trucks have AC but most dont. .

If you make regular at USPS it might be worth it in terms on job security and TSP. The best spot in USPS is Collections at ur local PD&C. U can upgrade to 204b if u dont mind being a little immoral, thats 50k. Salaries at USPS are national unlike fedex. UPS is sketchy in terms getting past probation but once u make book its the best and most lucrative option out of all 3. UPS also has handling positions and u can upgrade to pt supervisor which is over 20 an hr.

Thanks for the response.

From what I've read, some CCA's convert to "career" employees sooner, but generally a person works 2 years as a non-career CCA. Pursuant to the NALC Union contract, CCA's become PTF's after 2 years. The PTF is considered a "career" position in which you are then eligible for the TSP, Federal health benefits, and accrue time towards a pension. However, the PTF still is required to work Sundays and doesn't have a set schedule. But, because of seniority, they get 40 hours a week.

As you mentioned, conversion depends on the station situation. Where I work, the oldest regular carrier is about 58. He has told me that he may retire in 3 years, but since this station is all mounted routes (no walking house to house), he will probably extend his retirement. Behind him are a few 55 year old's. The rest of the crew are 30 - 40. There is 1 CCA ahead of me. I just began in June.

Before I applied, I read on another forum about CCA's working 50+ hours a week etc... I assumed that would apply to me, but I was wrong. People I went to the training class with are working 50+ hours a week. As mentioned in my original post, I am a rare CCA.

Anything could happen, but the odds of me becoming a Regular Carrier here sooner rather than later appear slim. That could be different in another station.

I agree that in the long run, working for the USPS is probably the better choice between USPS and FedEx. UPS would be better if I was younger. I'm 52. I thought I'd put in 15 years and then retire. There probably aren't that many 67 year old's working for any of the 3. But, as you said, I could become a Supervisor for USPS or even FedEx and make it to 67.

Thinking about that - are there many older couriers working for FedEx? What is the usual retirement age? Does FedEx "force" older people out?

Thank you for mentioning the advertised hours not happening. Personally, I've seen FedEx trucks around after 5pm, but never after 7pm. I did talk with a FedEx Courier the other day and he mentioned that one of the duties may be driving the packages to the airport. The airport is about and hour away. So, there is the possibility that after the 7pm drivers clock out, the 8:30pm person drives the packages to the airport and clocks out upon return to our town.

Finally, you mentioned the Box Truck. I've seen them around. I assumed you need a special drivers license for that. All I have is a Regular license. I'm sure I could drive the van, but the box truck would definitely require training.

Thanks for the information.

 

[UncleYunqi]

At Express if you are hired FT you are guaranteed 35 hours of pay. So you will either work at least that much or be paid "mins" to get there.

If you are hired and start before October 3 you would get a raise. I'm not sure of the exact amount without looking, but it would be closer to $18.50 or something like that. OT depends a bit on where you are, but it is usually available if you want it almost everywhere.

If FT you would start with 5 sick days, 2 floating holidays, and 2 personal days as well as paid holidays. You earn vacation for the following year so that would be able to be scheduled beginning June 2021. It's 2 weeks (pro-rated) the first 5 years, then 3, 4 after 10 and 5 after 20.

If you were a regular mail carrier I wouldn't advise switching, but Express seems better than CCA. Pay is a little jacked at Express, but I am hopeful that there will be a move to reduce the steps to top out like the tractor drivers will beginning this October. It's now 5 steps and the top pay is competitive - $28-32 for regular drivers and $30-35 for swings or tractor drivers.

I recommend swing if you're OK with covering different routes. It's not for everyone, but you can run some of the best routes (and the worst) and you get paid the higher rate. Additionally, you are not on the draft list for mandates with the regular couriers.

Thanks for the response. I am a new CCA. My official start date was in June, but I've only really been "working" since early July.

The position I applied for is Part-time. Perhaps I should ask for Full-time in the interview.

Does being a "Swing" involve having a special drivers license? I assume I could get it, eventually, but all I have now is a Regular license. I've read on this forum about people with CDL's. I assume driving the tractor requires a CDL. Is that correct?

Thanks for the information.

 

[Operational needs]

Thanks for the response.

From what I've read, some CCA's convert to "career" employees sooner, but generally a person works 2 years as a non-career CCA. Pursuant to the NALC Union contract, CCA's become PTF's after 2 years. The PTF is considered a "career" position in which you are then eligible for the TSP, Federal health benefits, and accrue time towards a pension. However, the PTF still is required to work Sundays and doesn't have a set schedule. But, because of seniority, they get 40 hours a week.

As you mentioned, conversion depends on the station situation. Where I work, the oldest regular carrier is about 58. He has told me that he may retire in 3 years, but since this station is all mounted routes (no walking house to house), he will probably extend his retirement. Behind him are a few 55 year old's. The rest of the crew are 30 - 40. There is 1 CCA ahead of me. I just began in June.

Before I applied, I read on another forum about CCA's working 50+ hours a week etc... I assumed that would apply to me, but I was wrong. People I went to the training class with are working 50+ hours a week. As mentioned in my original post, I am a rare CCA.

Anything could happen, but the odds of me becoming a Regular Carrier here sooner rather than later appear slim. That could be different in another station.

I agree that in the long run, working for the USPS is probably the better choice between USPS and FedEx. UPS would be better if I was younger. I'm 52. I thought I'd put in 15 years and then retire. There probably aren't that many 67 year old's working for any of the 3. But, as you said, I could become a Supervisor for USPS or even FedEx and make it to 67.

Thinking about that - are there many older couriers working for FedEx? What is the usual retirement age? Does FedEx "force" older people out?

Thank you for mentioning the advertised hours not happening. Personally, I've seen FedEx trucks around after 5pm, but never after 7pm. I did talk with a FedEx Courier the other day and he mentioned that one of the duties may be driving the packages to the airport. The airport is about and hour away. So, there is the possibility that after the 7pm drivers clock out, the 8:30pm person drives the packages to the airport and clocks out upon return to our town.

Finally, you mentioned the Box Truck. I've seen them around. I assumed you need a special drivers license for that. All I have is a Regular license. I'm sure I could drive the van, but the box truck would definitely require training.

Thanks for the information.

The hours all depend on the station and the proximity to the airport. I was at a station where you had to be back at the building by 9:00 Because the airport was five minutes away. The station I’m at now we have to be back by 7:00 because the airport is an hour and 15 minutes away.

There are plenty of older folks around. Again, that depends on the station. The station I moved from had a lot of younger folks, but I moved to Florida and was surprised to see so many grey haired people. Lol. FedEx does not technically push people out, but with this lates raise/nonraise news, a lot will probably leave.

 

[btrlov]

Thanks for the response.

From what I've read, some CCA's convert to "career" employees sooner, but generally a person works 2 years as a non-career CCA. Pursuant to the NALC Union contract, CCA's become PTF's after 2 years. The PTF is considered a "career" position in which you are then eligible for the TSP, Federal health benefits, and accrue time towards a pension. However, the PTF still is required to work Sundays and doesn't have a set schedule. But, because of seniority, they get 40 hours a week.

As you mentioned, conversion depends on the station situation. Where I work, the oldest regular carrier is about 58. He has told me that he may retire in 3 years, but since this station is all mounted routes (no walking house to house), he will probably extend his retirement. Behind him are a few 55 year old's. The rest of the crew are 30 - 40. There is 1 CCA ahead of me. I just began in June.

Before I applied, I read on another forum about CCA's working 50+ hours a week etc... I assumed that would apply to me, but I was wrong. People I went to the training class with are working 50+ hours a week. As mentioned in my original post, I am a rare CCA.

Anything could happen, but the odds of me becoming a Regular Carrier here sooner rather than later appear slim. That could be different in another station.

I agree that in the long run, working for the USPS is probably the better choice between USPS and FedEx. UPS would be better if I was younger. I'm 52. I thought I'd put in 15 years and then retire. There probably aren't that many 67 year old's working for any of the 3. But, as you said, I could become a Supervisor for USPS or even FedEx and make it to 67.

Thinking about that - are there many older couriers working for FedEx? What is the usual retirement age? Does FedEx "force" older people out?

Thank you for mentioning the advertised hours not happening. Personally, I've seen FedEx trucks around after 5pm, but never after 7pm. I did talk with a FedEx Courier the other day and he mentioned that one of the duties may be driving the packages to the airport. The airport is about and hour away. So, there is the possibility that after the 7pm drivers clock out, the 8:30pm person drives the packages to the airport and clocks out upon return to our town.

Finally, you mentioned the Box Truck. I've seen them around. I assumed you need a special drivers license for that. All I have is a Regular license. I'm sure I could drive the van, but the box truck would definitely require training.

Thanks for the information.

what is your financial goals?

at 52 , fedex wont cut it retirement wise …the pension is just not there and wont be there . TSP is comparable to 401k. Fedex might have a better match but nothing related to
compensation is to be trusted in regards to
fedex. They might have u load air cans evenings or unload response cans or trucks midday. Not ideal for 52. If u go fedex express, get a route learn the job , go to rtd, dispatch or management. I think morning shifts are better. Ask a lot questions at the “interview”

if u go CCA ask about 204b. Regular might be faster than u think too, keep close to your shop steward. I wouldn't want to case mail and walk at 52. The 1-2 bundle system is slowing moving toward a more package friendly system. Get as much V-time and penalty time as possible and always keep ur name on the ODL list.

the most recent Federal retirement is not that lucrative unless ur military or work under rail road retirement … some federal retirements(like RRR amtrak) give u a spouse benefit on top of ya regular pension. Might wanna look into that for USPS.

plenty of old heads at fedex
the old heads that complain but line up like robots to punch in everyday are lifers , alot are at top pay and not going anywhere anytime soon. u will be lucky if u get their cushy routes . Alot those guys did not properly plan for retirement in their adult lives so now they work to their late 60s early 70s to full SS and medicare kick in. they claim they stay because of kids college or “medical benefits” but really its just lack of preparation. I understand that some didn't have the age but 70+ couriers is ridiculous

 

[59 Dano]

This mothafu(ker can't get cancer fast enough.

Thanks, always great to hear from my fans!

 

[59 Dano]

Let’s get a trending on Twitter to show the greed of Fed Ex Corp to the world. They are an embarrassment to employees and the corporate world.

Can the 20 or so people here constitute a trend?

 

[59 Dano]

They are jackass, you referred to me as that first, I feel safe in returning the compliment.

Last I looked Southwest transported their carriage to airports, exclusively.

Example,

Memphis to Tampa, Memphis to Fort Myers, Phoenix to San Jose, their transportation, their airline business began and ended at an airport.

No ground operation to deliver their transported good to a personal residence or business where they may work. Beyond that, no one sends anything on an aircraft that they expect the airline to be the final delivery vehicle of what was sent.

I'm trying to help you figure out the difference, exactly what makes them different.

OK thanks for the help.

 

[59 Dano]

It will affect you you pompous ass if the hub sat down, did not report for work.
Do you, in bossing people around, planning strategies, or working in GOC, (which I think you do none of) think you pay any bills or move any freight without the handlers, ramp agents, equipment operators and other essential employees.
You are nonessiential if the above do not show up for work.
If you or your whole work group does not show up, bills will be paid, period.

Fire away, from what has been offered here it seems Fedex has enough problems having people show up consistently that can fog a mirror.

You know they have the companies balls in their hands, they are just to ignorant to understand the position they hold.

They don't have squat in their hands. You're too ignorant to recognize that.

 

[FX’D UP]

Can the 20 or so people here constitute a trend?

The trend is there are 10’s of thousands of unhappy couriers with the raises offered this fiscal year, my suggestion was to get it trending. How to do it i would not know but know it would trend.

 

[UncleYunqi]

what is your financial goals?

at 52 , fedex wont cut it retirement wise …the pension is just not there and wont be there . TSP is comparable to 401k. Fedex might have a better match but nothing related to
compensation is to be trusted in regards to
fedex. They might have u load air cans evenings or unload response cans or trucks midday. Not ideal for 52. If u go fedex express, get a route learn the job , go to rtd, dispatch or management. I think morning shifts are better. Ask a lot questions at the “interview”

if u go CCA ask about 204b. Regular might be faster than u think too, keep close to your shop steward. I wouldn't want to case mail and walk at 52. The 1-2 bundle system is slowing moving toward a more package friendly system. Get as much V-time and penalty time as possible and always keep ur name on the ODL list.

the most recent Federal retirement is not that lucrative unless ur military or work under rail road retirement … some federal retirements(like RRR amtrak) give u a spouse benefit on top of ya regular pension. Might wanna look into that for USPS.

plenty of old heads at fedex
the old heads that complain but line up like robots to punch in everyday are lifers , alot are at top pay and not going anywhere anytime soon. u will be lucky if u get their cushy routes . Alot those guys did not properly plan for retirement in their adult lives so now they work to their late 60s early 70s to full SS and medicare kick in. they claim they stay because of kids college or “medical benefits” but really its just lack of preparation. I understand that some didn't have the age but 70+ couriers is ridiculous

Thanks for the response. In the long run, staying with the USPS is probably the best bet. But, unfortunately, I'm not working much where I am and don't anticipate that changing much other than around the holidays.

So, in order to work and possibly get OT, I have to move.

My interview with FedEx is on Monday. I'll see what they say and decide.

Thanks again.

 

[FedexCares]

Thanks for the response. In the long run, staying with the USPS is probably the best bet. But, unfortunately, I'm not working much where I am and don't anticipate that changing much other than around the holidays.

So, in order to work and possibly get OT, I have to move.

My interview with FedEx is on Monday. I'll see what they say and decide.

Thanks again.

Age 52 is rough to be just getting into the package car delivery business. Are you in good shape physically??

If you start at Fedex there is a good chance you will start as a swing which honestly is not really going to be fun for someone that is already in their 50s unless you are just a beast physically for your age.

Some of the routes even at FedEx are no joke and as the low man seniority wise you will be running the worst ones at the station. I understand you gotta do what you gotta do to get by, but you need to really make sure you are up for the task physically.

I was a courier for 7-8 years myself and that was enough to give me some knee issues and I wasn’t anywhere near 52.

 

[Working4the1%]

They called me a HERO..they gave me ZERO. Never forget

 

[Buhryein]

They called me a HERO..they gave me ZERO. Never forget

That makes for a good fedex meme!

 

[UncleYunqi]

Age 52 is rough to be just getting into the package car delivery business. Are you in good shape physically??

If you start at Fedex there is a good chance you will start as a swing which honestly is not really going to be fun for someone that is already in their 50s unless you are just a beast physically for your age.

Some of the routes even at FedEx are no joke and as the low man seniority wise you will be running the worst ones at the station. I understand you gotta do what you gotta do to get by, but you need to really make sure you are up for the task physically.

I was a courier for 7-8 years myself and that was enough to give me some knee issues and I wasn’t anywhere near 52.

The USPS is relatively easy. A few heavy boxes, but not that many. Does Express get many heavy packages? What is the weight limit? I thought Ground delivers the heavy stuff.

 

[Operational needs]

The USPS is relatively easy. A few heavy boxes, but not that many. Does Express get many heavy packages? What is the weight limit? I thought Ground delivers the heavy stuff.

It depends on the route. Some routes get a lot of heavy stuff. Some don’t get much at all. The weight limit is 150 lbs. you have to be able to lift 50 lbs by yourself and up to 150 with a handcart.

 

[UncleYunqi]

Thanks for all your replies. Most likely I will withdraw my name from consideration because I just spoke with the hiring manager about changing my interview time and he seems like an .

 

[yadig]

Thanks for all your replies. Most likely I will withdraw my name from consideration because I just spoke with the hiring manager about changing my interview time and he seems like an *.

Lol! We can’t keep people and he’s already being a arse? Wow!

 

[Ground Schmuck]

Thanks for all your replies. Most likely I will withdraw my name from consideration because I just spoke with the hiring manager about changing my interview time and he seems like an *.

Quitting before being hired...

 

[Working4the1%]

Change my interview time. No you are the issue my friend

 

[falcon back]

Thanks for all your replies. Most likely I will withdraw my name from consideration because I just spoke with the hiring manager about changing my interview time and he seems like an *.

Be sure and let your next job know what time is convenient for you for the interview process and what are the best work hours to suit your needs. I am sure they want to make it is easy on you as possible.