Fired for "stealing time"

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Only if he was doing it on purpose....The delivery button and the pre record button on the diad are very close together....As are all of the buttons on the keypad..it is very easy to accidently push prerecord at a stop...especially with gloves on. So when you are a few stops away and realize what happen you should be able to then release it without fear of being fired..what are you going to do drive back to the stop and release the phantom pkg at the door...then they try to get you for excessive miles..you honestly can't win.

 

[BakerMayfield2018]

Lol. I agree with you it is bs. BUT, in today's age of lawyer talk , he has a point

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Lol. I agree with you it is bs. BUT, in today's age of lawyer talk , he has a point

This Is not the OJ trial

 

[Coldworld]

We all know (well maybe not the driver who got fired) all the ways that UPS can oberve what the driver does electronically. However the Mgmt team can't use that as sole proof to show "stealing time". Therefore the manager\on road supervisor go out to physically observe. Mgmt has to observe the entire lunch plus the extra 1/2 hour for proof that the person did steal time. Have that documented to show we have an employee is stealing time.

Per what already exists (can't use technology) and your reasoning that the mgr just sat and watched him steal time. That shouldn't be allowed, he should walk up to him and instruct him to work. If that is true, no one can ever be fired for stealing time. When no one can be fired, then many will decide to do the same.

Tell you what, why don't you just do what you said and sit on a load stand for a while when you are on the clock and see how well that logic holds up on your termination?

True but stealing time has been used in man

Why do you say that for...has this NEVER happen to you???

 

[By The Book]

When a guy admits he wanted an extra 30 minute lunch and improperly sheeted and delivered packages, stealing company time is the least of his problems.

To make matters worse he probably didn't put his breaks in the board.

 

[Coldworld]

This Is not the OJ trial

I've had this happen to me before...1 stop...not 30...not trying to Dick the company...should I be fired for a dishonesty issue for it??? Really...

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

I've had this happen to me before...1 stop...not 30...not trying to Dick the company...should I be fired for a dishonesty issue for it??? Really...

1 stop----no.

30 stops----what do you think?

 

[Johney]

They don't fire people here for that stuff. It will never get to a panel. They see someone "stealing time" and they just go tell them to do something. It is such a pain in the ass to fire someone, plus they're not good at it.

I think we have found a new BOG.

 

[bleedinbrown58]

I was just recently called into office and and told that i think I am a bad ass. Standing up for yourself or enforcing the contract should not be a "badass" it should be every teamster member.

Last week...my steward walks up.on the belt. I call him over and tell him my pt sup is down the other end of the belt loading 3 trucks because they sent a new guy home at 5am (it's now around 9am). He goes down to talk to PT sup. Few min later, my center manager and PT sup come over to me (without my steward..don't know where he went). center manager calls me out of my truck and tells me that she "doesn't appreciate that I'm throwing my boss under the bus" and that "I'm not being a team player." I take my phone out of my pocket, tell her I'm texting my steward to come back to my belt...and ask her how to spell "harassment"? Lol center manager storms off in a huff....and I filed yet another sups working grievance.

 

[cachsux]

.good thing you

Only if he was doing it on purpose....The delivery button and the pre record button on the diad are very close together....As are all of the buttons on the keypad..it is very easy to accidently push prerecord at a stop...especially with gloves on. So when you are a few stops away and realize what happen you should be able to then release it without fear of being fired..what are you going to do drive back to the stop and release the phantom pkg at the door...then they try to get you for excessive miles..you honestly can't win.

The ignition switch and the lock on the bulkhead door both take a key. Perhaps he intended to start the PC and be on his way delivering but he got confused and entered the bulkhead by mistake. Once inside the lack of airflow and internal temperatures caused him to become overheated and he began hallucinating. The DIAD shows he believed he was delivering packages as he recorded and stop completed them.

Ladies and gentlemen of the jury. What we have here is NOT a case of stealing time and dishonesty but rather a poor working man suffering from heat exposure and the negligence of the supervisor that allowed him to suffer.


If you're gonna pull out the bullshiet bat you might as well swing for the fence.

 

[bleedinbrown58]

If someone's going to start a thread and tell their "I got fired" story and ask for advice....be honest and tell the WHOLE story, instead of half truths or omitting certain things...it is what it is. we can smell it a mile away....just sayin.

 

[cachsux]

If someone's going to start a thread and tell their "I got fired" story and ask for advice....be honest and tell the WHOLE story, instead of half truths or omitting certain things...it is what it is. we can smell it a mile away....just sayin.

Once again, if a chick can pick up on it..............

 

[bleedinbrown58]

Once again, if a chick can pick up on it..............

 

[upschuck]

Last week...my steward walks up.on the belt. I call him over and tell him my pt sup is down the other end of the belt loading 3 trucks because they sent a new guy home at 5am (it's now around 9am). He goes down to talk to PT sup. Few min later, my center manager and PT sup come over to me (without my steward..don't know where he went). center manager calls me out of my truck and tells me that she "doesn't appreciate that I'm throwing my boss under the bus" and that "I'm not being a team player." I take my phone out of my pocket, tell her I'm texting my steward to come back to my belt...and ask her how to spell "harassment"? Lol center manager storms off in a huff....and I filed yet another sups working grievance.

I thought your center manager wanted to be your buddy? that is no way to do it.

 

[bleedinbrown58]

I thought your center manager wanted to be your buddy? that is no way to do it.

I couldn't care less what she wants...I can't explain womens' behavior....that's exactly what happened.

 

[Ron Carey lives on]

Mercy grievance, humble yourself. Take your butt kicking, get back to work and do the right thing

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[BrownTexas]

Last week...my steward walks up.on the belt. I call him over and tell him my pt sup is down the other end of the belt loading 3 trucks because they sent a new guy home at 5am (it's now around 9am). He goes down to talk to PT sup. Few min later, my center manager and PT sup come over to me (without my steward..don't know where he went). center manager calls me out of my truck and tells me that she "doesn't appreciate that I'm throwing my boss under the bus" and that "I'm not being a team player." I take my phone out of my pocket, tell her I'm texting my steward to come back to my belt...and ask her how to spell "harassment"? Lol center manager storms off in a huff....and I filed yet another sups working grievance.

I wish we had one person in our center that had a back bone like that. We have 6 pt sups and I bet they each work at least 75% of the shift. It one person would stand up they could clear $100k a year in a pt job. Lol

 

[Jim Rockford]

stealing

Yeah...yeah..if you falsified paperwork..its dishonesty. I just meant ..as a ramp employee..where a good chunk of your time consisted of playing cards waiting for planes to arrive.....the notion of not doing work every second of every hour being considered "stealing time".... is weird to me.

 

[BrownTexas]

If you're gonna pull out the bullshiet bat you might as well swing for the fence.

Might have to start using this one. Lol.

 

[Ron Carey lives on]

Get that money. If nobody has the b-lls to file the grievant is entitled to the money. Start showing the grievance checks to the p-ssys

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