Get Out Of Chicago ASAP???
- Thread starter Wally
- Start date
newolddude
Well-Known Member
Then again the Chicago police have been 
heads for years. Whether it be
heads for years. Whether it be - beating up hippies and Dan Rather at the 1968 DNC,
- the Guantanamo Bay like "dark" jail
- their years of quiet quitting
Then again the Chicago police have been
- beating up hippies and Dan Rather at the 1968 DNC,
- the Guantanamo Bay like "dark" jail
- their years of quiet quitting
"The police were understaffed and lacked clear leadership"
newolddude
Well-Known Member
Do you sense a trend?
Yes. So what's the point you're trying to make? We already know you don't like police.
oldngray
nowhere special
UnionStrong
Sorry, but I don’t care anymore.
Those silly, fun loving thugs….
Operational needs
Virescit Vulnere Virtus
Silly? Silly is wearing clown shoes to school. That was violent and scary, nothing even remotely close to silly.
Chicago is getting the government they deserve. I feel sorry for all the innocent people who will suffer because of it.
rod
Retired 23 years
His nose is big and he has a black eye-------if he wouldn't have mentioned it I would have never noticed.
UnionStrong
Sorry, but I don’t care anymore.
MrFedEx
Engorged Member
The Conservative go-to is always "how many people were killed in Chicago this weekend?". Hey, guess what. Trump didn't stop it either, and neither will the next president. But it's an easy target and Obama is from there, so why not, right?
Of course Trump didn’t stop it. Republicans don’t run Chicago.
MrFedEx
Engorged Member
Republicans don't mention that a lot of the cities they run have far worse crime stats than Democratic-led cities. Oklahoma City, Miami, Tulsa etc. all have higher crime rates than NYC. But you won't talk about that. Red states have higher murder rates than Blue states, but you don't want to talk about that either.
Opinion | Democrats' claims of a 'red states murder problem' are a myth - The Washington Post
October 19, 2022
"With Republicans hammering them over rising murder rates, Democrats have come up with a new line of defense: Republicans, they claim, are the ones really responsible for the surge in homicides. The United States, California Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) recently declared, has a “red state murder problem.”
No, it doesn’t. The bogus claim comes from a March study by the Democratic think tank Third Way, which purports to show that, contrary to “the right-wing obsession over homicides in Democratic cities: murder rates are far higher in Trump-voting red states than Biden-voting blue states.” According to Third Way, of the top 10 states with the highest per-capita murder rates in 2020, eight (Missouri, Louisiana, Kentucky, Alabama, Tennessee, South Carolina, Mississippi and Arkansas) voted for Donald Trump, while just two (New Mexico and Georgia) voted for Joe Biden. “Republicans seem to do a much better job of talking about stopping crime than stopping crime,” Jim Kessler, an author of the report, told Axios.
One problem with that: In most of these red states, the high murder rates are driven by the lethal violence in their blue cities."
------------
"Third Way does not provide city-by-city data for 2020 in its report, perhaps because this would undermine its red state murder narrative. But the Manhattan Institute’s Rafael Mangual gathered data on the 2020 murder rates in the 50 largest U.S. cities — 34 of which had Democratic mayors, while 14 were led by Republicans (two were led by independents). “The homicide rate in the blue cities was 15.8 per 100,000, compared to 9.4 per 100,000 in the red cities,” he found.
And in a May report, his Manhattan Institute colleagues Robert VerBruggen and Christos Makridis examined the growth in the homicide rate per capita in the largest U.S. counties between 2019 and 2020 — and then compared the rates in GOP-leaning and Democratic-leaning counties. They found that “counties with higher shares of GOP voters have a much lower homicide death rate and a lower number of deaths in 2020” and “also a lower growth in homicide rates.”
To argue, as Third Way does, that “murder rates are actually higher in Republican, Trump-voting states” — without pointing out that those rates are driven by the slaughter taking place in Democratic-voting blue cities — is intentionally misleading.
The fact is, the red state murder problem is really a red state murder myth."
Can you cite a website where we can see those numbers?
Now you've done it! @MrFedEx will be saying the people at the Washington Post aren't real journalists.
The mayors of the hundred largest cities in the U.S. are listed on Ballotpedia. 64 are Dems, 26 Repubs, and a smattering of independents, nonpartisans, and unknowns. Have to go to 12th place to see the first Republican.
MrFedEx
Engorged Member
My source was Newsweek, where I guess they're not real journalists either. The author of the WaPo piece is Marc Thiessen, who is about as far Right as it gets. It looks like Third Way slanted it to avoid talking about Blue cities, but isn't Mr. Thiessen slanting it to blame Blue cities entirely for high Red State violence levels? Yes, I think that's exactly what he's doing. So, Miami has a higher murder rate than NYC, BUT THEY HAVE A DEMOCRAT MAYOR and the state has a Republican governor. "Gosh, Batman, I think that Governor DeSantis would be able to keep crime at bay in his #1 city." "No, Robin, he's just a white-booted sissy boy." Blame the Democratic mayor even though the previous 2 mayors were both Republicans. Jesus, Ron, get your state squared away already.
Thiessen has a pretty bad rap sheet, including associations with Paul Manafort and Roger Stone, and Jesse Helms, and a long reputation for shoddy journalism, advocating for CIA torture, and generally being a war monger and POS.
Always check your sources.
Similar threads
