Global warming

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
I hear there is a good chance that the weather will be changing tomorrow .
Yes I'm sure it will.... what place does that kind of comment have in a thread about CLIMATE change? Here you go champ... think a little harder.

Even if you deny the science, pollution is bad for all of us. Not concerned about a warming trend, how about the rise in asthma......
 

moreluck

golden ticket member
"CLIMATE - the kind of weather a place has including heat, cold, moisture and dryness."

~Thorndike Barnhart Comprehensive Desk Dictionary~


Maybe the namers of this , so-called problem, are not accurate in their titling. Maybe they need to think a "little harder."
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
The World's Largest Solar Plant Started Creating Electricity Today
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JL 0513

Well-Known Member
A new report by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service finds that solar facilities in California are acting like “mega traps” that kill and injure birds. As a result, “entire food chains” are being disrupted.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news...rms-71-species-bird-found-enti/#ixzz2ybp7chOE


Not to mention the amount of birds killed by wind mills.

PITA whack jobs and environmental whack jobs are the same people. What are they going to do!?!? Both issues are their religion. And yet, I haven't heard concerns from PITA about how wind and solar are killing animals painfully, no less. Hmm, wonder why.
 

moreluck

golden ticket member
Not to mention the amount of birds killed by wind mills.

PITA whack jobs and environmental whack jobs are the same people. What are they going to do!?!? Both issues are their religion. And yet, I haven't heard concerns from PITA about how wind and solar are killing animals painfully, no less. Hmm, wonder why.
It's the same as the NOW group not coming to the defense when conservative women are wronged.......tunnel vision.
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
If only there were some government entity to protect the enviornment.
- Wind farms kill roughly 0.27 birds per Gigawatt hour (GWh).
- Nuclear plants kill about 0.6 birds per GWh. (2.2x wind)
- Fossil-fueled power stations kill about 9.4 birds per GWh. (34.8x wind)
(Source: Journal of Integrative Environmental Sciences vol. 9, no. 4, December 2012, 255-278)

Pesticides kill 72 million birds directly, but an unknown and probably larger number ingest the poisons and die later unseen. Orphaned chicks also go uncounted.

...strikes against building windows alone account for anywhere from 97 million to nearly 976 million bird deaths a year. Cars kill another 60 million or so. High-tension transmission and power distribution lines are also deadly obstacles. ....174 million birds die each year by flying into these wires. None of these numbers take into account the largest killer of birds in America: loss of habitat to development.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/18/science/18birds.html
 

av8torntn

Well-Known Member
- Wind farms kill roughly 0.27 birds per Gigawatt hour (GWh).
- Nuclear plants kill about 0.6 birds per GWh. (2.2x wind)
- Fossil-fueled power stations kill about 9.4 birds per GWh. (34.8x wind)
(Source: Journal of Integrative Environmental Sciences vol. 9, no. 4, December 2012, 255-278)

Pesticides kill 72 million birds directly, but an unknown and probably larger number ingest the poisons and die later unseen. Orphaned chicks also go uncounted.

...strikes against building windows alone account for anywhere from 97 million to nearly 976 million bird deaths a year. Cars kill another 60 million or so. High-tension transmission and power distribution lines are also deadly obstacles. ....174 million birds die each year by flying into these wires. None of these numbers take into account the largest killer of birds in America: loss of habitat to development.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/18/science/18birds.html


So your position is that killing birds is great as long as it's "for the enviornment"?
 

av8torntn

Well-Known Member
My position is birds die from a lot of things, wind farms are low on the list. The fossils around here who point at dead birds and say we shouldn't build wind farms are just grasping at straws. Read it again you must have missed it the first time:

Wind farms kill roughly 0.27 birds per Gigawatt hour (GWh).
- Nuclear plants kill about 0.6 birds per GWh. (2.2x wind)
- Fossil-fueled power stations kill about 9.4 birds per GWh. (34.8x wind)
(Source: Journal of Integrative Environmental Sciences vol. 9, no. 4, December 2012, 255-278)
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Unless you are demanding the creation of a government agency to protect the birds from these government wind farms you hate the enviornment.

Your article freely admits that wind farms slaughter birds(or did you not read it?) so those wind farms should be banned don't you think? Do to you think that these defenseless birds should be protected? Are you just mean spirited?
 
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