Gov healthcare

[Babagounj]

Another useless troll has arrived to correct us in our evil ways, a foreigner too.

 

[klein]

You got 10 fingers, and 10 toes.... metric is related to that, everything in 10's..LOL
For example: 10 fingers = 1 human ! LOL jk

 

[toonertoo]

Another useless troll has arrived to correct us in our evil ways, a foreigner too.

They seem to be quite plentiful tonight, ignore works well.

 

[DS]

Another useless troll has arrived to correct us in our evil ways, a foreigner too.

Mr Gounj ,just because he's Canadian does not make him a troll.
He is merely pointing out some truths.I can see where a lot of you would react so negatively about obama's health care dream.After all,as we all know its a huge change that would affect everyone in America,and nobody likes to change.Like klein said,its nice to be able to walk in to a walk in clinic,or your family doctor,and get treated for free.It the doctor prescribes medication,you still have a choice to upgrade to a name brand drug at your cost instead of the cheaper ones.
Anyone that has enough money can always do whatever they want but its nice to not have to pay that extra bill every month .
jmo

 

[klein]

Thanks DS ! Yeah, I even talked to Austrailiens (yes, like the rest of the western world, they have national healthcare, too). For them, I think $250 Aus Dollars ($200US). is deductable... So, basically, once that runs out, it's totally covered by the Goverment. If you don't use it at all, you don't pay anything that year. And to remind you, us "trolls" have the 75% supply of icetops (for catscans), in the world, We supply you and most of Europe and the rest of the world. Canadians are also the inventors of penicellin and insulin. And my city here (Edmonton) has now become the newest and best cancer treatment center in NorthAmerica. (it's brand spanky new, might not be on google yet, but yes, some American and European specialist have been chosen to work here, to make it the best). Did I forget to mention , it's free ? if your Canadian ?

 

[tourists24]

Thanks DS ! Yeah, I even talked to Austrailiens (yes, like the rest of the western world, they have national healthcare, too). For them, I think $250 Aus Dollars ($200US). is deductable... So, basically, once that runs out, it's totally covered by the Goverment. If you don't use it at all, you don't pay anything that year. And to remind you, us "trolls" have the 75% supply of icetops (for catscans), in the world, We supply you and most of Europe and the rest of the world. Canadians are also the inventors of penicellin and insulin. And my city here (Edmonton) has now become the newest and best cancer treatment center in NorthAmerica. (it's brand spanky new, might not be on google yet, but yes, some American and European specialist have been chosen to work here, to make it the best). Did I forget to mention , it's free ? if your Canadian ?

Icetops??? that's funny,,, never heard that before

 

[tourists24]

You also need metric system ! Everything is metric, your space program, the ml, and miligrams of medication you get.
Get with the rest of the world finally ! And that includes National Healthcare !

what's the matter klein....? afraid of a little math?

 

[klein]

I don't know how to spell it... but it's called or pronouced Ice -i tops. Its from a medical nuclear reactor. They need them for cat scans, and other medical machines that do scans. there are only 4 reactors in the world. One in eastern Canada (the largest), another in Holland... and I don't recall the other 2, maybe France has one.

As for the math, to the other posting... no we don't need the math, you guys at NASA calcukate your math, and so do your pharmacies, and hospitals, to have everything in metric, to have the perfect calcualtions done, for a perfect launch, or perfect heatlthcare service. Unless you guys get pills in ounzes (legal ones I mean).

 

[av8torntn]

Like klein said,its nice to be able to walk in to a walk in clinic,or your family doctor,and get treated for free..
jmo

So kindly explain this free part. Are you saying all medical people work for free. How do clinics operate for free? Do they not consume energy for even electricity. Is everyone involved in the system a volunteer? If this is true it is no wonder our system is so much better than your guys system. I have great interest in how your government manages to get people to put in the effort to make it through medical school and then work for free. I am also curious how your medical machines operate without the consumption of power (ct, mri, xray, ect.). Is is magic? Even if the energy required to operate these machines were stolen there would be some cost which makes your guys free claim very curious. How do you guys get the clinics built for free? I could use a free house or two so please share this information as well.

My guess is that all these free health care claims you guys are making are false. From what I can tell you guys get substandard care. I believe even your highest courts ruled this way and you even admited as much in your first post in this thread. I fully understand that our current Government wants to drag our health care system down to the level of that in Canada but hopefully we will not in the end allow this to happen.

 

[av8torntn]

Canadians are also the inventors of penicellin Did I forget to mention , it's free ?

You sure about that? I'm not, but would like to know how you get something for free or do you just force someone else to pay your way because you do not have the drive to provide for yourself?

 

[brett636]

Well, here is a Canadian. But, thinking you don't have to have national healthcare like ours (even though it's proven to be the worlds best).
But, did you Americans know, you're the only country in the enetire western world, that doesn't have national healthcare ????
That is soo stupid !
People lose homes, lose lives, because they have no insurance.
Walk in clinics, they are open almost 24 hrs a day here. I can go in , anytime. No charge.

You americans need healthcare reform. The working don't want it, ofcourse not, company pays for it. But, wait , where does the company get the money from ? - Think of that... everyone pays for it.

You also need metric system ! Everything is metric, your space program, the ml, and miligrams of medication you get.
Get with the rest of the world finally ! And that includes National Healthcare !

So when you get seriously ill and you need to see a specialist do they have those on hand in those 24 hour clinics? I thought not. Its too bad so many Canadians die while waiting for your great healthcare system to kick in.

 

[Jones]

I don't know how to spell it... but it's called or pronouced Ice -i tops. Its from a medical nuclear reactor. They need them for cat scans, and other medical machines that do scans. there are only 4 reactors in the world. One in eastern Canada (the largest), another in Holland... and I don't recall the other 2, maybe France has one.

As for the math, to the other posting... no we don't need the math, you guys at NASA calcukate your math, and so do your pharmacies, and hospitals, to have everything in metric, to have the perfect calcualtions done, for a perfect launch, or perfect heatlthcare service. Unless you guys get pills in ounzes (legal ones I mean).

Isotopes

 

[wkmac]

How Medical Boards Nationalized Health Care

 

[klein]

That is totally not true. We don't die for waiting for healthcare services. Yes, it happens, if your falshly diagnosed and they put you on a waiting list, because they think it's not serious. Other then that, we have "stars air ambulances" helicopters that come to an accident scene, if your seriously hurt. Who pays for this, we all do ! Our taxes, income taxes, and surtaxes esspecially on alcohol and cigarettes ($20 a 6pack and over $11.00 for a pack of smokes), because those 2 items contribute to higher healthcare costs.
And no, I can take care of myself very well. My $400.000 home is paid off, I'm debt free. Only need to pay utilities, cable and phone, to get thru every month.

 

[tourists24]

Who pays for this, we all do ! Our taxes, income taxes, and surtaxes esspecially on alcohol and cigarettes ($20 a 6pack and over $11.00 for a pack of smokes), because those 2 items contribute to higher healthcare costs.

So your healthcare isnt actually free then is it?

And no, I can take care of myself very well.

actually no you dont when it comes to healthcare. You HAVE to rely on government

 

[klein]

No, these docs and factilities don't work for free ! Either do they in Europe, or any other westernize country where national healthcare is in place. I lived in Germany as well for 14 years (as I am a german-canadian citizen), there too, they have a national healthcare system. The Americans are the only ones without one, besides African nations, and perhaps a few asian nations.
We all pay national healthcare thru taxes.
Yes, we had some court cases, because some doctors want to get together, and operate a private clinic. Thats against the law, here, since every single Canadian shoudl be treated equally in regards of healthcare. The general public wants healthcare to be the same regardless of having or not having money.
I do admit, for some treatments, people with money here, don't want to wait... they go to the States, to get treated.
But, it's not a dying issue ! They are definilty healthy enough to travel there.
Thats is thier choice (they got money). And yes, that makes news here, and ofcourse in the states.
On the other hand, how mnay US citizens die, because they don't have insurance ? How many people lose house and home, because of a serious illness ?
That doesn't happen here !
In September, all of us will be geeting the H1N1 flu vaccacine. Totally free.
Thats how much we care for our citizens. In the states, it will only be provided for those with insurance or money. The rest can get sick.
And you guys seem to want that.
I give up.

 

[tourists24]

Yes, we had some court cases, because some doctors want to get together, and operate a private clinic. Thats against the law, here, since every single Canadian shoudl be treated equally in regards of healthcare. The general public wants healthcare to be the same regardless of having or not having money.
I do admit, for some treatments, people with money here, don't want to wait... they go to the States, to get treated.

Why would doctors want to do this? and why would people with more money want to come to our healthcare system if the Canadian system works so well? what would motivate them to do this?

But, it's not a dying issue ! They are definilty healthy enough to travel there.
Thats is thier choice (they got money). And yes, that makes news here, and ofcourse in the states.

Again, even if you have the money, why would you need to come here if the Canadian system is a better way? Could it be that they get better treatment here?

On the other hand, how mnay US citizens die, because they don't have insurance ? How many people lose house and home, because of a serious illness ?

they die because they dont have insurance? how's that? there are places a person can go if they are that sick you know

The rest can get sick.
And you guys seem to want that.

You really think that just because people who dont want the GOVERNMENT running our healthcare that we want people dying and getting sick?

 

[klein]

You know, there was just a nice news report over amicans debating national Healthcare.... Kinda like in this ending: What we take for granted... The Americans are fighting over it.
To rely on govermant for my heathcare ?: I got no other choice, thats how our system works. I can get extra coverage though, for like having my own sperate room in a hospital, and I had that for many years. But gave up on that. I don't mind sharing a room with others, atleast someone to chat with.
We do pay extra for telephone and TV in hospitals, thats about it.
The problem in the states, is, the working people that have free insurance (thru the company), don't want others to get it for free, as well. (and eventually pay for it).
What if UPS lays you off tomorrow ? Who do you rely on, regarding healthcare...??????
The goverment will always be here for me, for my lifetime.... (and I pay my fair share, since I'm a productive citizen)

 

[Babagounj]

This gov't plan is only about control, not a persons health.
Read the fine print.
The gov't will be given access to everyone personal records and financial accounts. Those that require more services will be consulted on life ending methods. Getting second opinions will end. Some civil servant will make all your decisions for you.
Welcome to Obamacare.

 

[tourists24]

You know, there was just a nice news report over amicans debating national Healthcare.... Kinda like in this ending: What we take for granted... The Americans are fighting over it.
To rely on govermant for my heathcare ?: I got no other choice, thats how our system works. I can get extra coverage though, for like having my own sperate room in a hospital, and I had that for many years. But gave up on that. I don't mind sharing a room with others, atleast someone to chat with.
We do pay extra for telephone and TV in hospitals, thats about it.
The problem in the states, is, the working people that have free insurance (thru the company), don't want others to get it for free, as well. (and eventually pay for it).
What if UPS lays you off tomorrow ? Who do you rely on, regarding healthcare...??????
The goverment will always be here for me, for my lifetime.... (and I pay my fair share, since I'm a productive citizen)

I am particularly interested in that last sentence.... "the government will be there for me"..... really? And you are correct if UPS lays me off... it is a scary thought. But guess what? I will then have to go out and find something that can work for me and my family.... I WILL have that choice, you dont. It is tough but can be done. A lot of the arguements stem from just that; keeping government OUT of our lives and let us choose our on path..... It's called FREEDOM