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UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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Our local Chevy dealer got their first Volt yesterday. It is a very sharp car. This one has all the bells and whistles. It has the docking station and power cord. Oh, did I mention the sticker price--$43,844!!!! I know that the Federal government has a $7,500 tax credit and I am sure most states have a similar credit but if I am going to spend that kind of money on a car it is going to be European, perhaps with a German accent.
I am on vacation for the next two weeks and am going to try to see if they will take me for a spin.
I am on vacation for the next two weeks and am going to try to see if they will take me for a spin.
klein
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and who cares ? that's the price to pay for being enviromental friendly, just like people buying organic foods - they pay extra.
How long does it take to benefit from eating organic foods only ?
And most grocery stores, such as Safeway, Publics, etc sell reusable bags for $0.99 , while plastic bags are still free.
So, in your mind, it's stupidity to pay an extra buck to help planet earth, right ?
How long does it take to benefit from eating organic foods only ?
And most grocery stores, such as Safeway, Publics, etc sell reusable bags for $0.99 , while plastic bags are still free.
So, in your mind, it's stupidity to pay an extra buck to help planet earth, right ?
moreluck
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Funny, that the man in charge of finding the produce for Subway Sandwich totally avoids anything organic. He says organic is the worst to buy in a store. It's where the salmonella always comes from. The guy also wont contract farmers who have elec. power lines running over their fields.
moreluck
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I got plenty reusable bags when our Ralph's opened....for free!!
moreluck
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I've also been told that those reusable bags can be dangerous....especially if a bloody roast leaks. If you are going to wrap your roast in a plastic bag, it would defeat the purpose.
The plastic bags from the store I use as small canister trash bags and as doggie pick up poo bags.
The plastic bags from the store I use as small canister trash bags and as doggie pick up poo bags.
wkmac
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Why?
wkmac
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That's not true in all cases. I can take you to several local growers of organic produce who populate numerous small local markets in various town squares and they are cheaper and better quality than the grocery stores. Now in the grocery stores, organic is higher in price but the small local growers don't operate with the same scale of overhead as the grocery stores do and thus they can offer it cheaper. But the downside of local growers is they only grow what's in season too (out of season produce earns a huge markup) which is often a hallmark of organic.
moreluck
golden ticket member
Birds perch on wires and crap on the produce.
Babagounj
Strength through joy
And just where does that electricity magically appear from ? Nuclear, solar, coal or the byproduct of something sold from your cart ?
And can you wait the 8-10 hours to totally recharge it ?
brett636
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I think he is till pushing the Volt which you can still drive without recharging as it will run on gas as well. The only issue is one I exposed earlier in this thread and that is you never get your money back from the volt making purchasing it to save money pointless. You'd be better off buying a standard gas powered car for a third of the cost and never reach the cost of ownership that you will for the Volt.
klein
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And that's a bunch of crap, because Subway is a franchise, and they CAN'T get their own produce, meats or ingredients.
It all comes from 1 same supplier, and I do know that fact, because my other brother owns a pizza franchise, and all of his orders must come thru Sysco !
There is no way in hell, 1 franchise can have different tomotoes then the other one, or olives, green peppers and such.
Same if every Subway had their own produce and meats, not 1 single 1 would taste alike !
klein
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I agree wkmac, I have local farmers right basically next door from me.. well about a mile. 50 lbs of potatoes I can get for $8.00, fresher then fresh and home grown. Gee, I even had to pick my own beets there once (wanted to make a Borscht soup), can't get any fresher then that !
But, like you said, only in season !
moreluck
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This guy travels the world for Subway......not just one store. He's never home. Sysco supplys lots of things for restaurants, but not always the produce. Sometimes local growers are contracted to supply the local places......Ingardia Brothers produce trucks run up and down the SoCal coast supplying the restaurants.
I never said he went and got the tomatoes for Subway.......he finds the produce grower/distributor and marries them with Subway after checking out the actual growing sites to see if they meet the standards.
Babagounj
Strength through joy
Washington Examiner:
The Obama administration is preparing to propose that would effectively mandate what type of cars Americans have to drive.
The New York Times reports that the auto industry is busy pushing for handouts from the federal government in exchange for accepting new fuel standards:
The automakers say the standard is technically achievable. But they warn that it will cost billions of dollars to develop the vehicles, and they express doubt that consumers will accept the smaller, lighter — and in some cases, more expensive — cars that result. . . .
It’s pretty clear where this is going. The Obama administration wants to raise fuel economy standards to satisfy the environmental lobby heading into an election year so he’s imposing new regulations, but to get the automakers to swallow the changes, he’ll have to offer them various subsidies. In the end, consumers will be punished with less choice and lighter/more dangerous cars, while taxpayers will help to pay the bills.
The Obama administration is preparing to propose that would effectively mandate what type of cars Americans have to drive.
The New York Times reports that the auto industry is busy pushing for handouts from the federal government in exchange for accepting new fuel standards:
The automakers say the standard is technically achievable. But they warn that it will cost billions of dollars to develop the vehicles, and they express doubt that consumers will accept the smaller, lighter — and in some cases, more expensive — cars that result. . . .
It’s pretty clear where this is going. The Obama administration wants to raise fuel economy standards to satisfy the environmental lobby heading into an election year so he’s imposing new regulations, but to get the automakers to swallow the changes, he’ll have to offer them various subsidies. In the end, consumers will be punished with less choice and lighter/more dangerous cars, while taxpayers will help to pay the bills.
Lue C Fur
Evil member
Now here are some great union workers that are so happy they have a job in these tuff times that they celebrate on their break. This seems like the norm lately...must be Obama fans:
http://www.autoblog.com/2011/07/14/...rinking-smoking-during-lunch-break/#continued
http://www.autoblog.com/2011/07/14/...rinking-smoking-during-lunch-break/#continued
Babagounj
Strength through joy
PHOTOS: Green Vehicles Flops In Salinas
The start-up company set up shop in Salinas in the summer of 2009, after the city gave Ryan a $300,000 community development grant.When the company still ran into financial trouble last year, the city of Salinas handed Ryan an additional $240,000. Green Vehicles also received $187,000 from the California Energy Commission.Salinas Mayor Dennis Donohue said he was "surprised and disappointed" by the news. City officials were equally irked that Ryan notified them through an email that his company had crashed and burned.
The start-up company set up shop in Salinas in the summer of 2009, after the city gave Ryan a $300,000 community development grant.When the company still ran into financial trouble last year, the city of Salinas handed Ryan an additional $240,000. Green Vehicles also received $187,000 from the California Energy Commission.Salinas Mayor Dennis Donohue said he was "surprised and disappointed" by the news. City officials were equally irked that Ryan notified them through an email that his company had crashed and burned.
