Government Motors
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Babagounj
Strength through joy
(FOX News) — Automakers are pushing back against an Obama administration proposal that would almost double vehicle fuel-efficiency standards, launching a new ad campaign warning of hundreds of thousands of job losses across the country.
President Obama was hoping to get automakers to sign off on a nearly 100 percent increase in mileage standards by 2025, to 29.5 miles-per-gallon for model year 2012, on their way to 34 miles-per-gallon for 2016.
“They’re floating ideas to increase this fuel efficiency standard to 56 miles per gallon fleet-wide by the year 2025, which would be a significant ramp-up, even from the fuel efficiency standards that we have set in place to 2016,” said Nick Loris of the Heritage Foundation, a conservative Washington think tank.
“By the government’s own study, (the new standards) will cost so much more that it will result in a loss of about 220,000 jobs,” said Ed Tonkin, former president of the Automobile Dealers Association.
“A sales drop means job losses and not just with automakers but at hundreds of auto parts suppliers, dealerships and repair facilities across the country,” one of the ads says.
“The glass industry, the steel industry, the rubber industry,” Tonkin said. “And it goes on and on and on. The financing industry, the delivery companies, the railroads that deliver these vehicles.”
In fact, the auto industry argues it alone accounts for one of every five jobs in America.
One auto industry official put it this way: the new standards “are like dealing with the nation’s obesity problem by forcing clothing manufacturers to sell only small sizes.”
The 30 hybrids now on the market only account for only 2.4 percent of sales. And last year, Ford sold almost twice as many friend-150 pickups as all its hybrids put together.
President Obama was hoping to get automakers to sign off on a nearly 100 percent increase in mileage standards by 2025, to 29.5 miles-per-gallon for model year 2012, on their way to 34 miles-per-gallon for 2016.
“They’re floating ideas to increase this fuel efficiency standard to 56 miles per gallon fleet-wide by the year 2025, which would be a significant ramp-up, even from the fuel efficiency standards that we have set in place to 2016,” said Nick Loris of the Heritage Foundation, a conservative Washington think tank.
“By the government’s own study, (the new standards) will cost so much more that it will result in a loss of about 220,000 jobs,” said Ed Tonkin, former president of the Automobile Dealers Association.
“A sales drop means job losses and not just with automakers but at hundreds of auto parts suppliers, dealerships and repair facilities across the country,” one of the ads says.
“The glass industry, the steel industry, the rubber industry,” Tonkin said. “And it goes on and on and on. The financing industry, the delivery companies, the railroads that deliver these vehicles.”
In fact, the auto industry argues it alone accounts for one of every five jobs in America.
One auto industry official put it this way: the new standards “are like dealing with the nation’s obesity problem by forcing clothing manufacturers to sell only small sizes.”
The 30 hybrids now on the market only account for only 2.4 percent of sales. And last year, Ford sold almost twice as many friend-150 pickups as all its hybrids put together.
Buddybrown
Well-Known Member
The great community organizer is at it again. Instead of creating jobs he wants to take them away that way EVERYONE can be on the governments tit.
Unbeknownst to this auto industry official Michelle is already tackling this issue, it is a competition with her husband in who can lose more jobs and crash the economy first.
Since when did common sense matter?
Babagounj
Strength through joy
The July sales numbers are out and the Chevy Volt continues to electrify (get it?) the country. GM sold … 125 Volts last month!
GM has sold close to 2,700 Volts.
GM says they’re going to increase production to 5,000 Volts per month in order to keep up with demand.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/chevy-volt-still-not-selling_581956.html
GM has sold close to 2,700 Volts.
GM says they’re going to increase production to 5,000 Volts per month in order to keep up with demand.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/chevy-volt-still-not-selling_581956.html
moreluck
golden ticket member
Maybe GM should re-do Detroit unstead of a chinese city!!!
http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2011...o-design-city-futurein-china/?test=latestnews
http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2011...o-design-city-futurein-china/?test=latestnews
moreluck
golden ticket member
I have a 99 Blazer and a 2004 Tahoe..........but you couldn't give me a Gov't Motors car or truck for free now. If we buy, it'll be a Ford.
I imagine (and I can only imagine) that you are saying this because you believe that FORD didnt recieve a bailout? I realize you may have heard this a million times from FOXED SPEWS and its now your train of thought, but you are WRONG.
While FORD was suffering as was GM and Chrysler, FORD was the only company that was able to secure EXTENSIVE FINANCING through private banks to BAIL THEM OUT. Unlike Gm and Chrysler, FORD had a business plan that the banks wanted to support.
GM and Chrysler did not have plans that the banks wanted to support.
FORD was equally in trouble and without the loans it recieved, it would have been close to bankruptcy.
To say FORD was not bailed out is to not understand the facts, as usual.
Peace.
moreluck
golden ticket member
You don't know my thoughts, but I'll share. Gen'l Mtrs was stupid in trying to build every model car to try to keep up with every car being made....instead of just doing what they did best.....Corvette, trucks and SUV's and that damn Hummer. They were drowning and should've been allowed to have the natural consequences of losing. Ford, however stuck with it, put out the Focus......which wasn't beautiful, but a family could afford a $13,000 car and of course, did their friend series of trucks. They made the correct choices. They dropped that humongous SUV that was bigger than the Suburban when it wasn't selling so great.
I feel that the gov't rescued G.M. the same way some parents rescue their little spoiled monsters when they should let them experience some consequences of their behavior. That's my thinking.
I feel that the gov't rescued G.M. the same way some parents rescue their little spoiled monsters when they should let them experience some consequences of their behavior. That's my thinking.
moreluck
golden ticket member
"To say FORD was not bailed out is to not understand the facts, as usual." (TOS)
Now, do you want to show me where I wrote that Ford was not bailed out ??? You keep making stuff up. You just assume.....
Babagounj
Strength through joy
Prior to this current recession Ford did their own decreasing of their dealerships, they I guess one could say saw the writing on the wall and pre-planned.
They retooled their production and simplified their line-up of vehicles.
When bhos mentions "saving" the auto makers, how come Ford is never mentioned ?
They retooled their production and simplified their line-up of vehicles.
When bhos mentions "saving" the auto makers, how come Ford is never mentioned ?
trplnkl
555
Nearly all businesses use loans to operate, that's nothing new. The fact that Ford had a plan that the lenders were willing to go along with speaks volumes. Ford did NOT get a bailout, they took out EXTENSIVE FINANCING through PRIVATE banks. Do you think that is anything like using tax payer money to keep the doors open? To say Ford received a bailout is lying.
Buddybrown
Well-Known Member
This response is good and represents other themes in failed policy... Lying, having a plan and using bailouts like it's going out of style......It all just comes so naturally and is why we're in the shape we are in now. Redistribution at its finest.
klein
Für Meno :)
Damm, how can a government owned factory become #1 worldwide ? Any normal Republican would think it's nonsense !!!
Toyota loses top spot in global sales to GM !
The Canadian Press - Yuri Kageyama
TOKYO - Toyota Motor Corp., which has sunk to No. 3 in global vehicle sales from pole position, is counting on emerging markets to drive a revival in its fortunes, one of its top India executives says.
Toyota sold 3.7 million vehicles around the world in the first half of 2011, down 11 per cent from a year earlier as sales crashed 62 per cent in April-June on production disruptions caused by the March earthquake and tsunami in northeastern Japan.
That put it behind General Motors Co., which sold 4.5 million vehicles during the same period, and Volkswagen AG of Germany, with 4.13 million vehicles sold. Toyota has been the top selling automaker in annual sales for the past three years.
Toyota loses top spot in global sales to GM !
The Canadian Press - Yuri Kageyama
TOKYO - Toyota Motor Corp., which has sunk to No. 3 in global vehicle sales from pole position, is counting on emerging markets to drive a revival in its fortunes, one of its top India executives says.
Toyota sold 3.7 million vehicles around the world in the first half of 2011, down 11 per cent from a year earlier as sales crashed 62 per cent in April-June on production disruptions caused by the March earthquake and tsunami in northeastern Japan.
That put it behind General Motors Co., which sold 4.5 million vehicles during the same period, and Volkswagen AG of Germany, with 4.13 million vehicles sold. Toyota has been the top selling automaker in annual sales for the past three years.
trplnkl
555
If a baseball team beats all their opponents by 5 runs every game by hitting 7 homeruns but it is found out they are using illegal (loaded) bats then the team begins to loose their games because they aren't hitting the homers, does than mean the other teams are doing better? uuuh..... No.
moreluck
golden ticket member
The government throwing $$$$ at a failing company does not make me a proud American. It goes against everything I've learned about the natural consequences of your actions.
It was a dark day when Gen'l Motors was failing, but they screwed up and companies like Ford planned better.
It was a dark day when Gen'l Motors was failing, but they screwed up and companies like Ford planned better.
moreluck
golden ticket member
There's a huge opening there, but I'm just going to tip toe on by...
Aw, c'mon, I got nothing planned this morning.
